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And now for my next Mod! - Door Handle Illumination

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#1 · (Edited)
Whilst helping out a fellow colleague with a lighting issue I stumbled accross the door lighting, both the side red lamp on the door and light that shines down at the base.

What I also stumbled accross was door handle illumination. I knew other cars had it such as BMW but never knew it was on the Audi. This could be my next mod and whilst I'm at it I may as well install the other lights in the door providing its a simple pin connection to the module? This will be relatively inexpensive.

But one thing I did notice that it was for the rear doors in the diagram ie. 4 door. Is there a solution for the front door as well?

Has anyone done this?

JB



 
#2 ·
Ok I've now done a bit more research and found the front door lighting:-







 
#3 ·
and part numbers if anyone is interested:-



 
#4 ·
There's a guide on this on DaveB8s website, Audi Enthusiasts I believe.
 
#6 ·
No cant see anything realting to the door lighting only footwell lighting which has been carried out

:thumbsup:
 
#7 ·
Have a look at this. Sorry, I was mistaken, it's not a guide on doing exactly what you're looking for but it might help, if you've not seen it already.

AudiEnthusiasts Door Lighting
 
#8 ·
A Ha.. I got you, thanks for the info, v interesting

rgds
JB:thumbsup:
 
#9 ·
Sounds like a great mod JB but don't you need new door handles or even have to drill into the door itself, where else do you locate the bulb?

How much are the parts too please mate? I'd be interested to know how 'easy' this mod is? :thumbsup:
 
#10 ·
Hi BTF!

Audi quoted about ÂŁ75 for all the bulbs in each door, 3 of them.

I have also checked my door module and looking at DavidB's website which is a great site for info, a credit to David, my module appears to be the older type so wont work for this mod 8K0 959 793A and 792A.

I have therefore thought of connecting the door handle illumination to the footwell lighting (on all the time) and the door entry and red side light to the roof light which goes off when you close the door.

I am also thinking of buying two led lights which I used in the footwell lights for the door entry lights at the bottom and buying a couple of LEDS for the door handles (any advice and leds appreciated) and a couple of leds to go behind the red cover reflector plates in the door - may as well use these - building a holder behind these for high powered led lamps?

rgds
JB
 
#11 ·
Cheers JB. So where do the actual lights for the handles reside then, I'm slightly confused to be honest? Would you need to buy new handles as my Car's an 08 so the option for illuminated handles weren't available at the time of purchase?
 
#13 ·
#15 · (Edited)
Lights arrived but not impressed with the lighting of the puddle light, very yellow. Wonder if T8ups has some SMDs for this smaller type of light? Tried a big LED (3rd picture) seems a whiter light but not that bright though.










Ordered some smds from T8UPS yesterday, the puddle lights are the same as the inner boot lamp which again I ordred SMDs from T8UPS. The lamps arrived today -great service T8UPs.

IT's not clear in the above picture but the standard halogen lamp is not bright at all. If my door modules are not compatable then I wil ltake a feed from the 12v footwell lights (for the led im installing within the handle area) and from the roof courteousy lights for powering the puddle lamps.
 
#16 ·
If you've taken the feed from the underdash lights they are not 12v and the lights your installing as puddle lights are, my sportback has the led interior lighting and door illumination pack and the puddle lights are super bright
 
#19 ·
My footwell lights are 12v I think - I will get a multimeter on them later tonight and check.

JB:thumbsup:
 
#20 · (Edited)
I've checked the door modules and they appear to be not suitable for puddle lights. They have half covered rectangles in the corner so looks like I'm going to have to tap into existing light circuits -the long way round.

I'm wondering though which wires are live to the module so I can install the led from this instead of feeding it to the footwell lights?

 
#21 ·
Ok Im a little puzzled as when I checked the door modules in vcds they had tick boxes for illumination? so are they compatable?

see:-

Can someone shed some light on this (pardon the pun), compatable or not?



thankyou JB
 
#22 ·
So having checked mVCDS its appears I can connect up to my module for both the door entry lights and red side light and also the door illumination light so no need for long wiring harnesses. It appears to be Pin 16 for the door entry/puddle lights, Pin 3 for the door illumination led and splice into the wire connected to pin 5 for earth according to my mate T8UPS.

Then activate within vcds.

This could be an easier mod then I thought.



JB:thumbsup:
 
#23 ·
Hey Jonnie, I'm soon going to be doing this mod myself. I bought on ebay.de a pair of the RS5 door openers which have the light guide for the illumination (and much nicer design handles too). They also came with the door wiring looms, complete with all the connectors for the lights. The only problem is they don't have the connectors for the seat memory buttons so I'm going to have to combine the drivers side loom with my own somehow.

I have discovered that there may also be an output form the control module for an ambient light. This would be for lighting the door storage pocket, and I think it would adjust from the MMI in sync with the footwell lights. I also think this is the option that some door control modules don't have as indicated by the full or half full squares printed on it. This was never an option on the A5 but the modules are (allegedly) much the same as the A6 which did have the option, and can be (allegedly) exchanged.

The A6 parts catalogue had a light unit 4G0 919 390 to illuminate the storage pocket, it takes a 4pin connector 8K0 973 754 which uses the usual 000 979 009 E wires. Pin 1 is ground and pin 2 is power which goes to the control unit 32pin connector, pin 8. It appears to be an LED type light, fits into the underside of the armrest. We'd need to cut a hole for it.

I've been waiting to do this mod as I've been retrofitting the B&O sound system, and that needs both extra tweeters in the doors, and extra wires back into the car. I only want to take the doors apart once. I can already say though, that adding extra wires from inside the car to inside the door is a major major total pita. I've done all the wiring inside the car, and run wires to the door connectors which are a plug and socket design. You can't just feed a wire through.
 
#25 ·
It appears to be an LED type light, fits into the underside of the armrest. We'd need to cut a hole for it..
In the panel you mention (in my door anyway), there is an oval shaped hole (not sure what for) and I was thinking of ways to utilise this to hold the LED rather than having to cut a fresh hole in the door...
 
#27 ·
Just to confirm looking at the wiring diagram pin 5 of the 8 pin connector block, the brown wire is earth and runs through to the lower earth line on the diagram. Splice into this wire for your earth point, connect the door puddle and entry lights to pin 16 of the large 32pin connector block and the door handle illumination light to pin 3 of this same block. Tick the check boxes in the drivers/passengers door module on vcds voila!

Jb
 
#28 ·
Wired up the lights today, all went well.

Had to cut out the puddle light hole but there is already a guide line/template there.

Pin 16 for the puddle light and side red light (on the main 32 pin connector that has a blue cover)

Pin 3 for the door handle illumination light (again on the 32 pin connector). The connector block slides out of its surround and you simplky insert the pin into the relevant hole.

Splice into the big brown wire going to one of the connectors for earth on the module (you cant miss it, its the biggest wire and has another wire next to it (middle connector).

Tick the door entry lights/puddle lights etc within vcds and save.

I installed leds for the puddle lights and also the side red light but may change the side red light back to the halogen bulb as its only lighting up in one area and not the whole of the lamp.

For the door handle lights, I drilled a 4.9mm hole, fed the 3mm led (white pre-wired resistor led) and housing in and connected up behind. This hole was drilled behind the handle so you dont see the led from the side.

Taped the wires and used some duct tape to fix it to the door panel so it doesnt 'rattle' around.

JB:thumbsup:

p.s. My module didnt have the full rectangles only half rectangles so worked ok. I dont think this matters on the A5 whether full or half.



 
#29 ·
What technique / tool did you use to cut the extra hole for the puddle light? I'll be attempting the first of these tonight hopefully.

I now have the RS5 handles on both sides, while swapping I compared them to the original and the difference is more than cosmetic. The RS5 one is about 50% heavier (my guess) and the spring is twice the size. That's why it feels much more solid when you use it. The red lighting in it is subtle however. Very subtle.
 
#30 ·
Two ways paradyne, you can either use a Dremel or if you don't have access to one, use a stanley knife to cut it out. Don't just go straight in though, even the sharpest stanley will struggle - my advise is to get a wood chisel, place the door card bottom side up with a work surface underneath and chisel around the inside edge of the recess to compress the plastic and make it easier to cut.
 
#31 ·
Stanley knife but with a really thick blade and drill/small bit to get around the corners.

rgds
JB:thumbsup:
 
#32 ·
Thanks llBen, those were the two I was thinking of, would be a bit worried about slipping with a stanley knife and damaging the panel. I'll try the Dremel or similar.
 
#33 ·
Yes best play it safe :thumbsup:
 
#34 ·
Need to change the leds in the door handle to point downwards perhaps. You dont realise how bright they are until nighttime.


 
#35 ·
Paint the Led with red paint that way the glow around the handle with match the OEM Illumination, it will also lessen the distraction of the white light