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Very nice work. Congratulations and thanks to all that worked on it. I heard about this conversion like one month ago, but I didn't wanted to pay for it. Is nice that you don't need to change the buttons (control head) like in the case when you install a real MMI 3G+.
Can I have the software, please?
 
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Very nice work. Congratulations and thanks to all that worked on it. I heard about this conversion like one month ago, but I didn't wanted to pay for it. Is nice that you don't need to change the buttons (control head) like in the case when you install a real MMI 3G+.
Can I have the software, please?
This is a special, limited time, goodwill gesture for the community of Audi enthusiasts who want to improve their car.
Can you write me the specs of your car?
 
The battery level is a feature that never made it to the original 3g+ units.
I might bring back this feature for all cars (including A6 A7 A8), but it is not of high priority (since it was never available as a stock factory feature on 3g+).
Are you able to "see" CAN BUS messages with your firmware changes? Would it be possible to, for example, to activate the parking sensors when the car was traveling at under 2 MPH whilst parking? Like the rear sensors do, only for forward parking. Just a thought.
 
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Are you able to "see" CAN BUS messages with your firmware changes? Would it be possible to, for example, to activate the parking sensors when the car was traveling at under 2 MPH whilst parking? Like the rear sensors do, only for forward parking. Just a thought.
Yes, I am able to receive the data from various modules.
However, to see whether it's possible or not possible to do that would require a test car (and would probably depend on different parking module versions/types)
 
I would Love to try this on our 2011 North american Q7.
I will send you a pm with the details.
Thnxs for doing this, I was always wondering if it would be tricky to do but in the end always thought there are probably 2 many io ports differences for me to figure this all out.
I wonder if if this update will also make it possible to use the sata ssd and sata to pata converter, but I doubt as I bought the cheap converter and now everything trippled in price so I am just waiting for the harddisk to die to excuse the costs.
Anyway I have a backup of the harddisk so if things go bad I can always return to pretty much factory as it had no update before we bought it.
 
It should change. Mine shows an A4 Avant in the display.
Hi, so you have done the upgrade too (MM3H to MMI3+)? How has that worked for you? Cheers, all the best.
 
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I would Love to try this on our 2011 North american Q7.
I will send you a pm with the details.
Thnxs for doing this, I was always wondering if it would be tricky to do but in the end always thought there are probably 2 many io ports differences for me to figure this all out.
I wonder if if this update will also make it possible to use the sata ssd and sata to pata converter, but I doubt as I bought the cheap converter and now everything trippled in price so I am just waiting for the harddisk to die to excuse the costs.
Anyway I have a backup of the harddisk so if things go bad I can always return to pretty much factory as it had no update before we bought it.
So we've had another happy conversion!
This time, a Q7 from USA.


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@Mafketel should post his feedback soon.
 
So we've had another happy conversion!
And it went more smoothly than TJ001? Was the Q7 otherwise stock standard, no modifications that could interfere? Cheers, Peter
 
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that was about as simple as the initial upgrade from factory to k133.
Actually slightly easier because mj131 holds your hand virtually all the way ;)

He wrote apart from a lot software and firmware changes also a solid script to update the car.

I can't say anything about the navigation update yet as my 2.5 year old woke up when I came back after updating the car. And I still need to download the latest.

here are some screenshots during the update and the results

all in all it took about 3 hours including playing with the new system with the better bluetooth sound and interface.
I asked during the update if he had a way to get back to the old firmware and he told me yes but I only have done that one one unit that sits on my testbench vs 100+ units that have been updated.
It seems like no one wants to go back ;)

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sadly my instrument cluster does not support gps time otherwise I would see the option to use that. Having the time zone in this menu is however already an upgrade. even though we don't use a car much, when we do, we do cross time zones when we travel. I should show the time zone selection map as it is neat.
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HD fm still works luckily as xirius sound compression is unbearable to listen to.

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I can't say anything about the navigation update yet as my 2.5 year old woke up when I came back after updating the car. And I still need to download the latest.
Hi, thanks for that update. So, the old maps are not changed during the FW/software/script updating? You only change them if a new version exists and you d/l them to update it later? I ask because my current maps I installed in 2023 are the latest available for AU (2021 ver 5.13.4). Cheers, all the best, Peter

p.s. interesting to hear that the MMI can be rolled back to the original version ... wonder if this has any significance if the car is being serviced by Audi (rather than Audi adjacent or generic service centres).
 
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I do have a question that maybe other ppl might want to know the answer to too.

All the locks have been removed from this firmware considering navigation, so this means you can install any map you want, EU, NAR or ROW.

Now while looking for the newest NAR available which seems to be 8R0051884JE(KM is supposedly available from dealer) I read this note:
MMI software version must be at least K0900; latest is K0942

Now I am 100% confident that mj131 used the latest firmware to update from high to plus and our firmware is 1530 vs the official 942.

But just to be sure...we are good with firmware version right ;)

The harddisk is wiped in the process and setup anew, apart from a very few little things like the Bluetooth name of the nav unit is retained you get fresh out of the factory unit without any nav maps..

About the dealer ..... 3g high vehicles are generally out of warranty so dealer does not care. Even my dieselgate is now out of warranty completely.
And they were not supporting your 3g high before and they also basically dropped support for 3g plus so there is NO difference in that regard towards the update.
 
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I hadn't realised that so many were done, I thought that TJ001 was the 1st ...
He was the 1st on these forums.
However, there are many many cars in my country (and others) running this update happily.


This is also the first time, when the update program itself is considered mature & tested enough, to be executed by the people without specialist equipment and not having to worry about something going wrong.
 
The harddisk is wiped in the process and setup anew, apart from a very few little things like the Bluetooth name of the nav unit is retained you get fresh out of the factory unit without any nav maps..
OK, so still need to re-do the map install, understood.

Just here in AU, I found the Audi dealer/service a bit tetchy about upgrades & add-ons they didn't do ... 1 had a meltdown about my old A6 quattro Avant having Denison Gateway 300 iPod/Aux/USB interface plumbed into the system. Cheers, all the best, Peter
 
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He was the 1st on these forums.
However, there are many many cars in my country (and others) running this update happily.

This is also the first time, when the update program itself is considered mature & tested enough, to be executed by the people without specialist equipment and not having to worry about something going wrong.
OK, I guess I only saw it as I was PM'd to have a look here for a FW update (but it is most obviously much more than that). Cheers, all the best, Peter
 
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OK, so still need to re-do the map install, understood.

Just here in AU, I found the Audi dealer/service a bit tetchy about upgrades & add-ons they didn't do ... 1 had a meltdown about my old A6 quattro Avant having Denison Gateway 300 iPod/Aux/USB interface plumbed into the system. Cheers, all the best, Peter
Time for a different place to service your car ..... geez
 
Time for a different place to service your car ..... geez
I only use the dealer about 1 in 4 times. Where I am in AU, the nearest place with DE-capable service is 150km away (including the dealer).
 
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so NAR 6.24.0 8r0060884JE is installed and takes forever as usual ... It works
ONe other advantage of the plus firmware that while searching poi you don't have to wait on the unit finding poi you can just continue adding letters.

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I don't have the idea the unit is slower or faster then before, so you get vastly improved Bluetooth more recent map availability and some tweaks in de ui that make life just a bit easier.

If audi really stops providing map updates after the KM update with 2022 map data this update stretches the nav to be useful for a couple of more years.
 
so NAR 6.24.0 8r0060884JE is installed and takes forever as usual ... It works
ONe other advantage of the plus firmware that while searching poi you don't have to wait on the unit finding poi you can just continue adding letters.

promised timezone update pic
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I don't have the idea the unit is slower or faster then before, so you get vastly improved Bluetooth more recent map availability and some tweaks in de ui that make life just a bit easier.

If audi really stops providing map updates after the KM update with 2022 map data this update stretches the nav to be useful for a couple of more years.
-70ft?
 
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Hello. Just checked and mine starts with HNav, but how do I know If I have the 3g high one and not just the 3g. New to the software side. Anyway, love to get the software. Really missing the video from sd card...

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