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MMI 3G+/3GP navigation 6.36.0 and firmware updates - currently 2023 Europe

Its time for a new thread and i hope this one will be kept clean :)
Here is a link to the old one, please check there before asking questions that might have already been answered in the past.

Links to the latest versions of firmware and map update (with activator)

Maps & activator:

Europe
6.36.0 2023 MMI 3G High/Plus Europe [Link on Mega (use 7z/7zip to open the files)]

Rest of World
5.13.4 2021 MMI 3G High/Plus ROW - ANZ,SA,ME,HN,SM ... here!

NAR
6.20.1 2019/2020 MMI 3G ... here! If it asks for password then use this one -> 8R0060884GJ

Activator [Link on Mega]

Firmware:
Audi A1 [Link on Mega]
• 8R0 906 961 EC – HN+_EU_AU210_K0900 (A1) SVM: 3GPEU900A1

Audi A4-A5-Q5-Q7
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 - Stock firmware
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0942 - Stock firmware
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0942 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems

Audi Q3-A6-A7-A8
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0900 - Stock firmware
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0942 - Stock firmware
• HN+R_EU_AU_P1001 - Stock firmware
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0900 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0942 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems

Manual:
3G_3GP.pdf [Link on Mega || Spanish translation thanks to homarc || 2017 MAP Update thanks to homarc]
How to user 64GB SD card [Link on Mega]

These are the required files and folders for Map 6.33.1 with 32GB SD card. Thanks to @JulianHicks for creating the lists.
See "3GP_Filelist.txt" (3GP) and "3GH_Filelist.txt" (3G High) attachments in this post.

You might need GEM (Green engineering menu) activated and use User Defined Mode and manually select all that is under AUDI_MMI3G_ECE if it's not selected.

Warning - FW update K0900 is removing the "Emergency Update" option from the "Green Menu". There is a way that this can be fixed.

• Emergency menu activation on K0900 firmware. [ Only for A5OC ]
• To enable the Green Menu you could use VCDS, VAS or the following script [ Green menu activation ]
• 03623 [ 03623 Remove ]
  1. Unzip it on the SD card.
  2. Put the sd card in the MMI.
  3. When prompted press the center knob.
  4. After the script is done you will see confirmation screen.
  5. Remove the SD card and reboot MMI

Do not use MAC to unpack and/or copy the files to the SD card.

The problem:
I've tried to update my firmware (MMI 3G+) to K0767 and got the following error:

GEMMI_nav:0 error code 141
I could only access "Retry" choice (but update kept blocking at 5% with the same error) or "Back" button that was useless
Unable to do anything else, even the Reset procedure didn't work!

Root cause:
This is a file corruption error, the MMI didn't like what it found on the SD card.
Because I'm a stupid software engineer who thinks he knows best, I didn't trust the forums and copied the files from my mac onto the SD card (using command line to clean-up the .Trashes/ and alike folders)
So this is the lesson: DO NOT COPY FROM A MAC
Sub-lesson: better learn from other's mistakes than redo the experience...

Solution:
As stated previously, even a MMI reset procedure didn't allow me to get out of the error.
So I went to my neighbour's Windows PC, reformatted the SD card and extracted the RAR archive onto it.
Back to the car, update went fine and completed successfully after 30 minutes

Hope this experience will help some fellow here...
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LESSONS LEARNED - NEVER USE MAC OS (or Unix, Linux based OS) for unpack and copy map or firmware data into SD card. Also always format SD card in Windows OS. USE ONLY WINDOWS FOR UNPACK/COPY!!!

I had to upgrade Firmware as well. I could not load map data even they were copied in windows. It means that also Firmware was corrupted.
I found cca 10 000 hidden files on Firmware SD card. Dangerous is that Firmware seemed to be OK all the time but it was not and I could destroy whole MMI
(Imagine that FPGA or EEPROM is burned with some hidden apple .bin file....).
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Q&A section
Here are some of the questions raised by the forum members about the update process that I might failed to explain in the manual.

Q. Do i need VCDS to do the update?
A. No, you need VCDS only to clear some errors after the update but the MMI will function correctly even if you don’t clear them out.

Q. I have a Bang & Olufsen sound system not a Bose. Does this also mean that i need to exclude it?
A. Yes, better not to update the DSP system.

Q. Currently no updates for North America?
A. Not for now.

Q. I have mmi 3gp , version p0XXX can i go straight to k0900?
A. Yes.

Q. Have found the activation script and it includes "2380_00040009.fsc". This should be changed according to manual Page 31 to the MAC address specifically to my MMI or should I continue to use the "2380_00040009.fsc" as stated in the manual page 18.
A. Leave the filename as it is now.

Q. The 2380_00040009.fsc file contains a VIN number. Should that be changed to my VIN number?
A. No, do not attempt the edit the fsc file.

Q. Will my VIN be visible and correct in the MMI
A. Yes.

Q. Only thing is that my Google Maps option is greyed out... any hints?
A. Reinstall the GEMMI_nav component from the K0900.

Q. 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version - How can i solve this ?
A. Restart the MMI and remove the key from ignition then put it back in. The error should change from 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version to 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management.

Q. What does the new firmware bring in terms of added functionality?
A. Not much, apart from K0770/K0767 fixing the issues with the SIM data connection and Bluetooth usage at the same time.

Q. What are 03276 and 03175, will they affect the MMI in anyway and how can they be avoided?
A. 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management will appear every time when the software is updated w/o VAS connection to the VW/Audi servers.
03175 - Invalid Data Set will appear when updating the map w/o deleting it first. Sometimes this helps to avoid that error.
They will not affect the functionality or the sound characteristics of the MMI.

Q. Is there a way to use used defined mode w/o "Green Menu"?
A. Yes. In file metainfo2.txt in the root folder if you remove the line "MetafileChecksum=XXXXXX" and add
EnableUserDefinedSWDLMode = "true"
skipMetaCRC = "true"
the you will be able to use the user mode w/o the green menu.

Warning - At no stage I take responsibility of your actions or any of my notes that may mislead you. Therefore, and like my all other documents I say “use at your own risk”.

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samlporter
Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me. I really would like to update my car and get the Navigation working as I don’t have it currently. I have this from the engineering menu. Would I be able to use the A1 update? Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks
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samlporter said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me. I really would like to update my car and get the Navigation working as I don’t have it currently. I have this from the engineering menu. Would I be able to use the A1 update? Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Sam



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Hello, this thread is for 3GP MMI, so I don’t think you will get any support. Try to search corresponding thread.
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Updated my MMI maps today to 6.32.1 with prevously installed Keldo activator, works seamlessly.
There were few retries/rewrites during installation, but I think it was caused by bad SD card.
Now just need to fix code 03276 with VCDS and all is perfect.
Thanks for torrent share, guys!
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Hori said:
You have 3G High system.
Do NOT delete the CTY folder,need that folder.

Need to delete LIT3GP 1- 5 .
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sorry to ask i am new to this forum and i don t know to much about the navigation update i have mmi 3g high.wich maps version should i download?
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shobby21 said:
sorry to ask i am new to this forum and i don t know to much about the navigation update i have mmi 3g high.wich maps version should i download?
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3GH and 3GP shares the same map update, so you can download one from this thread. Also make sure you have one of recent firmware updates as well.
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Guys im confused on what folders i need to delete to fit the files on a 32gb card, on previous updates ive only ever deleted LIT1,2,3 but in the 2021 folder there is now a LIT4 which i also deleted but still not enough space to copy the files too, there is also talk of deleting CTY but some say no delete LIT3 GP 1 to 5??

Can someone confirm exactly which files need to be deleted. Many thanks.

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Ninja21 said:
Guys im confused on what folders i need to delete to fit the files on a 32gb card, on previous updates ive only ever deleted LIT1,2,3 but in the 2021 folder there is now a LIT4 which i also deleted but still not enough space to copy the files too, there is also talk of deleting CTG but some say no delete LIT3 GP 1 to 5??

Can someone confirm exactly which files need to be deleted. Many thanks.

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Delete
LIT1-4
CTY
CTY2

Than it will fit.
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Here are the FOLDERS what MMI 3G+ system needs for the update:

fdefcrc=LABEL_ECE,4A489D33
fdefcrc=XAC_ECE,7C580C79
fdefcrc=XAC2_ECE,61BBA9D0
fdefcrc=XAC3_ECE,8872F43F
fdefcrc=GDB_ECE,411F5453
fdefcrc=GDB2_ECE,A40EB4B7
fdefcrc=TMC3GP_ECE,439DB0FC
fdefcrc=LIT3GP_ECE,970953B6
fdefcrc=LIT3GP2_ECE,50C2568E
fdefcrc=LIT3GP3_ECE,E65B899F
fdefcrc=LIT3GP4_ECE,7E72CDD5
fdefcrc=LIT3GP5_ECE,16F7CAEC
fdefcrc=SDS3GP_ECE,992A910
fdefcrc=PIT_ECE,C81C62C
fdefcrc=TER_ECE,E26B82A7
fdefcrc=TER2_ECE,7777AC1E
fdefcrc=CTYS3TC_ECE,2A47FE59
fdefcrc=CTYS3TC2_ECE,223BC08B
fdefcrc=PSD_ECE,B144C582
fdefcrc=PSD2_ECE,F20C7CE1
fdefcrc=PSD3_ECE,F8CA37D0"


That is why you can delete LIT1-4, CTY... what you can not find in that list!
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Hori said:
Delete
LIT1-4
CTY
CTY2

Than it will fit.
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HI all,

I want to update, my maps only.
Before I updated my firmware and my maps and activated, i have actually:

180235


I have any questions i read forum but I have some questions If only want to update MAPS, i no need to erase any think? or I need to erase database nav and partitiion? i think no erase needed because the actual maps has ben activated


If i no need to erase anythink I only follow these manual not?
Only need acces to green menu an activate "user defined mode" and run update and restart and finish? or need activated after update?

Thanks a lot!
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suavebygtr said:
HI all,

I want to update, my maps only.
Before I updated my firmware and my maps and activated, i have actually:

View attachment 180235

I have any questions i read forum but I have some questions If only want to update MAPS, i no need to erase any think? or I need to erase database nav and partitiion? i think no erase needed because the actual maps has ben activated


If i no need to erase anythink I only follow these manual not?
Only need acces to green menu an activate "user defined mode" and run update and restart and finish? or need activated after update?

Thanks a lot!
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HI,

1. Need to activate the green menu
2. (In green menu) Delete the NAV database, (no need to delete particion)
3. Install map
4. No need to reactivate the map.

Kind regards,

Balazs
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suavebygtr said:
HI all,

I want to update, my maps only.
Before I updated my firmware and my maps and activated, i have actually:



I have any questions i read forum but I have some questions If only want to update MAPS, i no need to erase any think? or I need to erase database nav and partitiion? i think no erase needed because the actual maps has ben activated


If i no need to erase anythink I only follow these manual not?
Only need acces to green menu an activate "user defined mode" and run update and restart and finish? or need activated after update?

Thanks a lot!
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Hi,

your FW version is enough - OK. If you have already once activated your maps successfuly, you don´t need to activate again - OK. With the partition delete - someone said that if you don´t delete the partition, you risk some diagnostik error codes (the codes don´t do anything, they are just there). Me personally - first update I deleted the partition and still I had some codes after the update. 2nd update I didn´t delete the partition and got the same error codes, so I don´t see any point in deleting the partition. There are ways how to get rid of those error codes (and even if you don´t erase them, they do nothing). So based on my exp. I would say - If you don´t have any issues, you don´t have to delete the partitions and go just for the update in user defined mode.

Good luck.
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Harprik said:
Hi,

your FW version is enough - OK. If you have already once activated your maps successfuly, you don´t need to activate again - OK. With the partition delete - someone said that if you don´t delete the partition, you risk some diagnostik error codes (the codes don´t do anything, they are just there). Me personally - first update I deleted the partition and still I had some codes after the update. 2nd update I didn´t delete the partition and got the same error codes, so I don´t see any point in deleting the partition. There are ways how to get rid of those error codes (and even if you don´t erase them, they do nothing). So based on my exp. I would say - If you don´t have any issues, you don´t have to delete the partitions and go just for the update in user defined mode.

Good luck.
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Hi in my first update I have error 03623. I solve with the link in page one, and other that i solve with vdcs I think i know I no delete perhaps I don't have errors. I try without no deleting any data.
Thank you.
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Hori said:
HI,

1. Need to activate the green menu
2. (In green menu) Delete the NAV database, (no need to delete particion)
3. Install map
4. No need to reactivate the map.

Kind regards,

Balazs
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So I first activate green menu an delete nav database.
Then restart and in green menu and select use define mode and update mapa not=

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suavebygtr said:
So I first activate green menu an delete nav database.
Then restart and in green menu and select use define mode and update mapa not=

Thanks
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Hori said:
Yes!
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THANKS A LOT. I will wish no have dtc erros ;)
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Hori said:
Yes!
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Every error can be removed at the end so no worries!
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Hi, just to share my experience as I had the same FW (maps ECE 6.26.1) as suavebygtr:

1) Activated green menu, user defined mode
2) Updated WITHOUT any delete (nav database nor partition), no activation
3) No error codes, works perfectly

Note: During update, I had one retry with PSD2, successful. After finish, it took few hours to accept to enter new address (I could pick the last destinations, but not possible to enter new. MMI restarted of course). When I was just about to ask here for the tip, it worked.

Thanks for creating this topic with all relevant files and info!
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Marko said:
Hi, just to share my experience as I had the same FW (maps ECE 6.26.1) as suavebygtr:

1) Activated green menu, user defined mode
2) Updated WITHOUT any delete (nav database nor partition), no activation
3) No error codes, works perfectly

Note: During update, I had one retry with PSD2, successful. After finish, it took few hours to accept to enter new address (I could pick the last destinations, but not possible to enter new. MMI restarted of course). When I was just about to ask here for the tip, it worked.

Thanks for creating this topic with all relevant files and info!
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Hi so i just do in afertoon so I doubt if I erase nav database or nor?

I don't undestand

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During update, I had one retry with PSD2, successful. After finish, it took few hours to accept to enter new address (I could pick the last destinations, but not possible to enter new. MMI restarted of course). When I was just about to ask here for the tip, it worked."


So you recomend erase nav database or not?
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Hi Ag



Hi so i just do in afertoon so I doubt if I erase nav database or nor?

I don't undestand

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During update, I had one retry with PSD2, successful. After finish, it took few hours to accept to enter new address (I could pick the last destinations, but not possible to enter new. MMI restarted of course). When I was just about to ask here for the tip, it worked."


So you recomend erase nav database or not?
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I do not want to recommend as I consider myself for a beginner. I just shared that I DID NOT erase anything, just updated maps and it worked. Good luck!
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