You should now be fixed better than fixey fix the fixer from fixville!Amazing thread, many stories of happy TFSI owners.
I am aware of the TFSI oil consumption issues and the stage 1 to 3 fixes. I moved from a 2010 BMW 2.0i and only option was Audi or Merc.
Part of me was saying avoid Audi but when I drove the car it was day and night compared to the BMW. The engine is so quite and smooth power delivery.
The car is a 2009 2L TFSI with 87k. Before purchase the car i went through all the paperwork of the repairs. In Dec 2016 at 58k it had stage 1 and failed. Then there is warranty paperwork for stage 2 repairs cost £3.4k.
But 2 weeks later another warranty invoice for almost £7k full engine replaced. I only purchased the car because of the complete engine was replaced assuming the problem is fixed.
The new engine has 30k miles on it. My question is that new engine fitted with better rings or am I back to square one
I have done a oil change and fitted a dipstick to monitor the oil and only done 120mile so far and waiting. I only do short trips in town.
May ask what is normally oil consumption please. Surely the Audi would not fit a replacement engine with a faulty one?
thanks for that 👍🏼06J115611L
Hi just thought I'd share my recent experience with you all.
I have a 2011 A5 coupe 2.0 TFSI quattro bought in Spring 2019 which now has approx 58k miles.
It has full Audi service history up to 2016, 2 independent services in 2017 & 2018, & 2 mini services including oil changes done by myself in 2019 & 2020.
Full VAT receipts are in my possession.
I have read this thread with great interest from start to finish - many thanks to all posters - & was coming to the conclusion that I did indeed have the dreaded oil consumption issue.
I guessed I was probably using 1/2 litre of oil every 300-400 miles.
I've had very little contact with my 2 nearest Audi main dealers apart from the odd spare parts etc before this.
Armed with knowledge from this thread, I approached my nearest dealer & enquired politely about an oil consumption test.
Can I add my local dealer is an Audi Sport dealer with in the show room, when I first wandered in, amongst others -
TTRS x 2, RSQ3, RS5 Sportback, RS4, RS7, R8 x2, with another R8 outside to drive away today for £125,000.
Quite a lot of expensive metal I'm sure you will agree & slightly intimidating when you own a 9 year old car & are asking for help....
They were very helpful & agreed an oil consumption test straight away.
Test done & checked - failed as I expected.
The cars Audi service history they already knew & the independent & my VAT invoices were copied & sent to Audi UK for a possible warranty claim.
On my 9 year old car remember!
The news came back fairly quickly that Audi would indeed honour the claim & would contribute 80% of the cost for a stage 2 fix - pistons, rings, con rods & rebuild - cost approx £6,000 so the cost to me of approx £1,200.
I also added a few things including cam chain & tensioner, water pump & also had a new starter motor done which sounded like it was getting slightly 'sticky'.
I now have the car back & am very pleased with the results so far.
I'd like to add, all people at the main dealer were very easy & helpful to deal with & are a credit to the four rings.
I consider the 80% contribution from Audi UK generous & fair, & would recommend anyone in my place to ask politely & hope you get the same result.
Will update as mileage increases.
About 1100 miles so far & the oil level hasn’t moved a pixel on the MMI!
Engine also seems smoother & has regained some power.
Pleased & very relieved 😅
The car is around 58k miles. In terms of its oil consumption, it would notify me to top up minimum 1litre after around 100 miles of driving.What's the mileage on the car and how much oil is it consuming?
TBH if Audi offered that 10% deal to me I would take. Looking at my warranty repair bill it was £3.4k without VAT on Dec 2016 so would have gone up a bit since so around £400 for engine rebuild is good deal.
If I was in your position I would ask Audi to also fix the chain tensioner at a discount rate since engine is out of car.
The tensioner is also a weak point until 2012.
With the lockdown and working from home I have only driven 350miles since the oil change and my oil level so far its only dropped 1 bar and stable.
I am waiting for the moment it drops 2nd bar
Once the issues are fixed its actually a decent performance engine and good design suspension.
Yeah it’s a shame, that’s the problem when you buy it off someone completely random, but a rookie mistake for not researching the car thoroughly enough and informing myself of potential problems.That's the same mileage my car was fixed. Its unfortunate you did not research about this engine. Previous owners will never tell you about the fault and no actual way to test the consumption on the test drive. I did some homework before purchase and only looked at cars that had the pistons upgraded by Audi and supported with paperwork.
I understand the chain tensioner is a engine out job or remove the front end of the car for access. Some people have have replaced it around 100k and some earlier.
My engine was far too gone for piston rings repair so Audi fitted a new engine and its 31k miles on new engine. I am praying the engine in Dec 2016 was later revised engine with all issues fixed.
Speak to Audi and ask them if they can do a new chain and tension at a reduced rate since the engine will be taken out the car for piston rings repair.
Once you have the pistons and tensioner sorted its a decent low mileage engine you have and will go on for 150k+ miles easy with good interval oil service.
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Yes, they heat the engine to 80deg C, drain the oil for 10 minutes, rotate the engine 3 times and drain again for a further 10 minutes, they leave the old oil filter on. Use new oil, weigh it with the container. On return after at least 300Km they heat the engine to the same temperature drain the oil in the same manner and weigh it again in the same container. The difference being the weight of the oil used, they have used the specific weight of 0.84 kg/l for the oil.Are you sure they told you it was a ‘weigh test’?
the official procedure involves a milage of 1.000 km / 600 miles as mentioned by Steve J.Yes, they heat the engine to 80deg C, drain the oil for 10 minutes, rotate the engine 3 times and drain again for a further 10 minutes, they leave the old oil filter on. Use new oil, weigh it with the container. On return after at least 300Km they heat the engine to the same temperature drain the oil in the same manner and weigh it again in the same container. The difference being the weight of the oil used, they have used the specific weight of 0.84 kg/l for the oil.
Thanks Fred, Skoda must do it slightly different then by weighing before and after the test and calculating consumption by km covered.the official procedure involves a milage of 1.000 km / 600 miles as mentioned by Steve J.
this mileage is rather precise, 900 km or 1100 km will give you a failed test.