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What gearbox do I have?

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#1 ·
Hey peeps,

So I purchased a 2011 A5 3.2 FSi Quattro Sportback S-Line about 2 month's ago. The advert indicated it had a Tiptronic transmission.
I traded in my A6 for this - which was also a Tiptronic. The gear changes in the A5 vs my A6 are very different. Smooth, faster and has this click kind of sound between gears when I floor it. Sounds pretty cool. How come the 2 cars are so different with the same transmission?

Now this is where I get confused... I have been reading up quite a bit on the A5's and I keep seeing references to my model being an S-tronic. Also saw someone say that the 2011 tiptronic has 6 gears while the S-tronic has 7. Is this so? My vehicle has 7 gears.

How would I identify what gearbox I have? Is there an obvious way to tell by just driving?

Sorry for the n00b questions. Really confused here.
 
#4 ·
You have S-tronic.

Tiptronic is a Audi term used to denote the ability to select gears manually in an automatic gearbox.

The A5 has 3 different non-manual gearboxes; automatic (as in conventional torque converter); Multitronic and S-tronic. ALL three have the ability to select gears manually in "Tiptronic" mode.

Quoting from page 90 of my drivers handbook: -

"Manual Gear Selection (Tiptronic mode)

applies to cars with S-Tronic gearbox"
 
#7 ·
Yes, but not in 2011...

Tiptronic is old-style torque-converter type of auto gearbox (but that's not a bad thing). Of interest, the 8-speed Tiptronic is the only 'box available with the 3.0 BiTDi (because of the torque - the S-Tronic can't handle it) in the A6/A7 (and also A8) and sadly the combination is too long for the B8 A4/A5 which is why it's not been offered in the B8 platform (other than the SQ5, which has more room). In 2011 the Tiptronic gearbox still had only 6 gears, so your car isn't this.

S-Tronic is Audi's name for the twin-clutch style of automatic gearbox. Previously referred to as DSG (and still is by other VAG marques) and it has two drive shafts, one with even gears and one with odd gears. It pre-selects the next gear based on whether its ECU thinks you're about to upshift or downshift and it then swaps the gears by deselcting one clutch and selecting the other, far faster than you ever could do so in a manual. It does mean that you can tow a car with S-Tronic as you can put it Neutral and the wheels will not then try to drive the engine (which they will with a Torque Converter). The S-Tronic used in the B8 platform has 7 speeds, so this is what you have with your 3.2 A5. The R8 V10 Plus has Audi's new S-Tronic 'box, still with 7 speeds, but with an uprated torque handling.

Multitronic is Audi's name for a CVT, although it does have pre-set steps if you select manual mode to simulate the effect you get with other auto boxes in manual. It's often referred to a "Multichronic" as it does seem to have a mind of its own at times!

Apart from manual (which doesn't have an "Audi" name) there is also the R-Tronic, which was a hydraulically-operated manual gearbox, only offered in the R8 (both V8 and V10) and was generally derided by the automotive press for being a bit dim-witted. I can vouch for the new S-Tronic in the R8 V10 Plus having driven one - it's absolutely amazing!

Hope this helps clear up any confusion with which gearbox you have.
 
#6 ·
Tiptronic used to be used by Audi to describe any auto box with buttons to manually shift gears, either on the steering wheel or gear selector (or both) to differentiate it from the bottom range autos which didn't give you those options.

Both my 2004 A6 and 2002 S8 are 'tiptronic' 5 speed ZF boxes with torque converters.

The multitronic is a CVT (Continuously Variable) transmission, so varies gear ratio for a more or less fixed engine speed (in manual mode it simulates fixed gear ratios) but is thankfully only fitted to non-sporty front wheel drive Audis and is often referred to as multichronic for its inherent (and probably no longer justified) reputation for grenading its wet ECU and failing clutch packs.

S-tronic is a DCT (Dual Clutch) transmission which pre-selects the next gear and simply switches from one clutch being engaged to the other, which offers quicker gear shifts as there's less inertia in the box to overcome. Smaller transmission that saps less power but is slightly less refined in town.

Weren't earlier V8 S5s torque converter 6 speed boxes?
 
#8 ·
Wow - awesome, detailed and informative responses. Thanks a lot guys.

I was at Audi yesterday getting something checked out and they also confirmed it is S-Tronic. Yay!

I just wonder why the sales label on the car said Tiptronic when I first saw the car and purchased it. Surely S-Tronic would have been a selling feature. All the other models that are S-Tronic state it.
Then again, when at Audi yesterday, I saw an A5 3.0TDi with an A1 card in the windscreen. Seems they need someone new to do these things :)
 
#9 ·
welcome to the real world where audi dealers have their heads so far up their arses they cannot see what it is they are selling. never known a marque where the staff know so little about what they are selling. as previously noted the audi used site is notoriously useless at filtering down to the spec you are looking for, this is because the muppets at the dealerships dont fill in the right info.

but sometimes you win because you get stuff that wasnt in the valuation.

and tbf it isnt just audi..i suppose you just expect better...
 
#10 ·
A more informed sales guy I dealt with told me that a surprising number of staff at an a Audi training event thought that quattro was a level of trim like s-line or technik! He really knew his stuff and had been with Audi for 11 years. One of those situations where knowledge and experience makes the difference.

By comparison when I spoke to a sales guy at my local dealership had recently transferred from Peugeot. Needless to say ...
 
#11 ·
Suppose it can work in your favor. When I purchased my A6 in 2009 (traded it 3 months back for my current A5) it was marked as a 2006 A6 3.2 FSi Quattro. When I took delivery of the car the salesman told me he made a mistake with the year and it was actually a 2007. My car instantly increased in value by R140,000 (about $14,000). Audi had to swallow that bitter pill. My score :)
 
#13 ·
Oh dear, that doesn't look good :( (I won't comment on the speed the photo was taken at lol)

Given the km'age, has it had a documented oil change at the required interval? If so I'd expect a lot of goodwill, whatever the issue. Assuming it's not just a sensor fault the most likely first action will be replacing the mechatronics unit....
 
#14 ·
I was cruising on an open freeway (ands it's KMH, not MPH :)).

Car is under Audi motor until 100,000km, so they will foot the bill for whatever is wrong. Still annoying though.

What is worse, is some tool reverses into me beginning Dec. My A5 went in on Wed to have the doors replaced and just after I get it back it has to go to Audi for the gearbox. In the meantime, my insurance company has given me a little Toyota Eitos to drive. Sigh... I really miss my car [emoji22]