Want Bluetooth Streaming... Tell Audi!

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Agilis

Discussion Starter · Nov 17, 2011 (Edited)

Hey everyone,

So there is still no word on Bluetooth Streaming using A2DP profile which got me thinking.

Audi's 2 slogans, "Truth in Engineering" and "Innovation through Technology". I feel both slogans are straight up lies as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the lack of support for this technology. You know, several customers are asking "WHY" there is no Bluetooth Streaming support in our vehicles, vehicles that cost 3 times as much as vehicles that come standard with Bluetooth Streaming, and Audi still has not given us a direct answer why we have been slighted.

So lets do something about this...

First, lets show Audi how dissatisfied we are by leaving negative reviews/feedback for their Bluetooth adapter for MMI 2G set ups.

Bluetooth Streaming Audio

I'm hoping this will inundate their systems because lets face it, the newer radio, MMI 3G, doesn't support something an older radio supports. This is absolutely despicable on Audi's part and I know others already agree.

Second: Contact Audi like I did:
Audi of America > About Audi > Contact

Now I contacted AoA using the Email method. One method may be preferred by you over another one. So go for it and don't hold back! After all, you spent a lot of money on your vehicle, and you have a right to demand some sort of answer.

I'm hoping that maybe we can light a fire up under Audi's you know what.

Now here's the drive and the reason why this could work:

The amount of people asking for Audi to support A2DP is shocking and Audi needs to know about this. My attempt at contacting was successful in the fact the rep forwarded my complaint to the proper channels and I'm afraid that's how far it went. So perhaps we need to push for an answer and that's what this is all about!

We as customers have nothing to lose.

So please, participate. Go ahead and ask on different boards (A4/S4) and other forums, and other places, for their members to participate. Maybe it's possible to get Fortitude, or other blogs/media channels, to pressure Audi.

If anyone has any other ideas, please post them here, I'm sure they'll be good.

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Agilis

Discussion Starter · #21 · Apr 16, 2013 (Edited)

Okay. Tune2Air is the real deal. Before my review, I have used the Miccus Blue Bridge Mini-jack RX. This had excellent sound but no MMI 3G support and needed to be powered off of a USB/12V adapter. Most recently, I tried the solution at Audi MMI 3G Bluetooth Music Streaming - Audi MMI 3G Bluetooth A2DP Music Streaming ... This worked well, but only because the device could be powered by the AMI port. But again, no support for the MMI 3G interface, and the sound quality was not all that great. Really, it is just a custom AMI cable that allows the device, a Belkin Bluetooth product, to be powered by the AMI.

Now on to the Tune2Air. First and fore most, this device is being used with my iPhone 5 running latest OS from Apple. It is not seen as an accessory which locks the device. That was the first and only concern. The MMI 3G interface allows the device to be browsed just as if it were connected directly to the MMI thru the AMI port and no functionality is lost. Third party apps work, such as DI.FM.app, but there seems to be an issue with displaying the current track being played in the app. Not sure who is to blame but other than that, it works extremely well. If you are wondering, while Tune2Air is connected, the phone can be used just as if Tune2Air was not connected, meaning you could browse the web, YouTube, etc.

The sound quality is superb. It is equal to the Miccus solution I had first and way better than the Belkin. The bass response and over all sound quality is rich and full.

Overall, I highly recommend this product if you want full MMI 3G support, in a no nonsense product.

AudiSType: I've emailed viseeo about the interference/clicking heard when both profiles are in use at once. I've received one reply which I responded too. I hope they respond again soon. As for a work around, I don't have 1 yet except turning off Bluetooth on the phone and allowing the MMI to connect and leave Tune2Air disconnected until Phone call is over with. I'll keep you posted but you should email them your concerns as well at [email protected]

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Deepmeister

· #22 · Apr 16, 2013

Maybe I am missing the point of this thread, but my MMI 3G Plus has bluetooth streaming. It picks up my (paired) Android Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and plays audio tracks from it via Bluetooth streaming, controlled by the MMI in the dash.

The sound is not too good as it converts to Analog from Digital, hence not as good as a direct USB stick in the AMI or SD card in the slot which is generally digital most of the way through the process.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #23 · Apr 17, 2013

Ok, so the problem I had with Tune2Air and my third party streaming app not refreshing the current track title in the app was exactly that - Tune2Air is not refreshing the song title. Enabling 'Show Track Info' for some reason forces the song title to refresh.

But 1 issue I am experiencing and not sure if it's normal is I cannot get songs to pause. Pausing the song using the phone after a couple of seconds starts playing the song again. Is this how the music behaves without Tune2Air?

Last thing I will say, This is the only device I have owned that will auto-reconnect to the MMI which is a plus.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #24 · Apr 17, 2013 (Edited)

Deepmeister said:
Maybe I am missing the point of this thread, but my MMI 3G Plus has bluetooth streaming. It picks up my (paired) Android Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and plays audio tracks from it via Bluetooth streaming, controlled by the MMI in the dash.

The sound is not too good as it converts to Analog from Digital, hence not as good as a direct USB stick in the AMI or SD card in the slot which is generally digital most of the way through the process.

Please describe your vehicle in your signature better... that way it is clear and there is no guessing, especially when it comes to the year of your vehicle. Most people, like me

, interested in Tune2Air or a A2DP Bluetooth solution have vehicles before 2013, where Bluetooth streaming was finally supported natively. Prior to MY2013, the MMI only supported the Hands-free Bluetooth profile.

:cheers:

AudiStype

· #25 · Apr 18, 2013

lol i know never had a quick minute to do it but ill do it now.

Anyway quick question about your intake is the AWE S-Flow intake causing you problems at the dealership, like warranty wise, cause i want to get one but i think my dealership is an asshole. IMO.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #26 · Apr 18, 2013

AudiStype said:
lol i know never had a quick minute to do it but ill do it now.

Anyway quick question about your intake is the AWE S-Flow intake causing you problems at the dealership, like warranty wise, cause i want to get one but i think my dealership is an asshole. IMO.

I have the S-Flo filter only. NOT the intake system which in my, and others opinions, is not worth it and is a gimmick. :thumbsdown: That being said, my dealership is top notch, and 100% supportive of anything I do, as long as it within reason. Try to find a different dealer. Ask around here for recommendations. :cheers:

AudiStype

· #27 · Apr 18, 2013

not many people from Houston are on these forums.

Anyways are you planning to buy the Adapter?

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #28 · Apr 18, 2013

AudiStype said:
not many people from Houston are on these forums.

Anyways are you planning to buy the Adapter?

What adapter? The Tune2Air? I already bought it. But having problems with the device being available after I get in the car in the morning. I need to reconnect it to the AMI cable then it can be connected to the phone. I'm actually about to contact tech support about it.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #29 · Apr 18, 2013

Looks like I will be updating my devices firmware/software when I get home from work. Looks like fun too! Tune2AirWMA1000BluetoothMusicReceiver,SupportAirplay,Audi-A2DP,Mercedes-A2DPandVW-A2DP - DOWNLOAD - ViseeO Worldwide Official Site

Deepmeister

· #30 · Apr 19, 2013

Agilis said:
Please describe your vehicle in your signature better... that way it is clear and there is no guessing, especially when it comes to the year of your vehicle. Most people, like me , interested in Tune2Air or a A2DP Bluetooth solution have vehicles before 2013, where Bluetooth streaming was finally supported natively. Prior to MY2013, the MMI only supported the Hands-free Bluetooth profile.

:cheers:

My current vehicle is a 2011, but had the 3GPlus MMI retrofitted by iiBen on this forum. See the thread on that point if interested.

My previous A5 was from 2008 and had the 2G MMI.

If you have the Audi AMI installed which is also easily retrofitted, you can then add the choice of connector such as iPod, USB for sticks or hard disks, etc. Audi also make a Bluetooth streaming connector for the AMI:

Part: 4F0 051 510 J

I know it worked with the first generation A5 (which I had) and cost about 100 euros at the time.

It supported Bluetooth "A2DP Profile" in case it helps to know.

Somebody else on the forum also has a recent post to do with this part:

http://www.a5oc.com/forums/a5-s5-topics/25581-fs-audi-mmi-bluetooth.html

Hope it helps!

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Agilis

Discussion Starter · #31 · Apr 23, 2013

Agilis said:
Looks like I will be updating my devices firmware/software when I get home from work. Looks like fun too! Tune2AirWMA1000BluetoothMusicReceiver,SupportAirplay,Audi-A2DP,Mercedes-A2DPandVW-A2DP - DOWNLOAD - ViseeO Worldwide Official Site

Just a follow up... The firmware upgrade is a royal PITA and will require some patience. It involves acquiring a 32 bit Windows XP / 7 installation. Once this is acquired, you install the firmware upgrade platform which is locked. To unlock, you have to email Viseeo your hardware ID that the platform gives you, and they will send you a license code. Once unlocked, the device can be upgraded with the firmware IMG you downloaded when downloading the platform installer.

So if you do this on a weekend, don't or at least get the license code first.

I found my device to have out dated firmware, which was evident from the problems I had. But since the upgrade, everything just works and works well.

Also, the clicking noise/interference heard while connected to both my car's hands free profile and the Tune2Air device is not present. The latest firmware may have addressed this issue.

You can check the Tune2Air's firmware version using your iPhone: Navigate to Settings: General: About: Scroll down to Tune2Air

Latest version as of this post: 3.17 (2013-04-02)

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Dqsimon

· #32 · May 7, 2013

There may be an alternative depending on what apps you stream with. The new version of Google Maps streams over Bluetooth to the mmi on my 2012 Audi A5 with my iphone 4. Iuse it now exclusively over the Audi nav system for directions as it is way better at least in my experience than Audi's nav system which appears to assume that surface streets don't have stop lights and stop signs.

Lee_Edge

· #33 · May 8, 2013

Looking to buy that Tune2Air device but I also need to buy the ipod ami cable, at the moment I have a Usb Ami cable in my car. Only problem there are a couple of different options and different serial numbers.

Could anyone point me to the right one?

Audi Accessories < Owners area < Audi UK

Or a cheaper alternative on ebay or something?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Ami+ipod+cable+audi&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Lee_Edge

· #34 · May 13, 2013

Anyone? Would really appreciate the help..

amire

· #35 · Sep 13, 2013 (Edited)

I have the new Audi A5 Sportback and it does not have Bluetooth music streaming.
This really sux. I have the B&O system but not the NAV-blablabla... They told me that Bluetooth streaming is included in the NAV-...

So, this is my plan. Dunno if this already has been done...

1) Buy a Bluetooth music receiver such as Belkin or Loghitec = 25£

2) Cut the AC cable and pair it with an old USB cable = 0£

3) Connect a AUX cable to the receiver and the car = (AUX) 5£

4) Plug in the AC/USB cable to a charger connected to the AC I/O in the car... = USB Charging unit 5-10£

Deepmeister

· #36 · Sep 14, 2013

amire said:
I have the new Audi A5 Sportback and it does not have Bluetooth music streaming.
This really sux. I have the B&O system but not the NAV-blablabla... They told me that Bluetooth streaming is included in the NAV-...

So, this is my plan. Dunno if this already has been done...

1) Buy a Bluetooth music receiver such as Belkin or Loghitec = 25£

2) Cut the AC cable and pair it with an old USB cable = 0£

3) Connect a AUX cable to the receiver and the car = (AUX) 5£

4) Plug in the AC/USB cable to a charger connected to the AC I/O in the car... = USB Charging unit 5-10£

Another option is to retrofit the Audi Music Interface (AMI) that fits in the glove box. You then fix the adapter cable (USB, 3.5mm Phono, iPhone, etc) to suit your device. One of the adapters is a Bluetooth adapter that provides bluetooth streaming.

The retrofit is relatively easy if you are a DIY enthusiast, or very commonly done by many of the Audi specialists that retrofit Audi parts.

amire

· #37 · Dec 3, 2013

Deepmeister said:
Another option is to retrofit the Audi Music Interface (AMI) that fits in the glove box. You then fix the adapter cable (USB, 3.5mm Phono, iPhone, etc) to suit your device. One of the adapters is a Bluetooth adapter that provides bluetooth streaming.

The retrofit is relatively easy if you are a DIY enthusiast, or very commonly done by many of the Audi specialists that retrofit Audi parts.

Thank you for the tip, but I don't think I have any connections in the glove box.

myowdeeA5

· #38 · Jun 8, 2014

Well,
I Have a 2013 A5 Quattro and I cannot stream music bluetooth. Phone connects (Blackberry Q10), Audi symbol on my phone screen, contacts show on my Audi dash, but music does not stream.

I bought a USB MMI cable from Audi ($67) and then plugged my BB USB Cable to the MMI. I see the music library on the Audi screen and can navigate through and listen using the USB cable, but when I open Slacker Radio (New BB doesnt support Pandora). I still cant get music to stream, wired.

Frustrating that you cant even buy a car without BT streaming and my new Audi cant handle it. My 2005 BMW could do this, and my 2013 Audi cannot. Its pathetic. It also is annoying that every electronic is so PRO IPHONE. I am not a fan of Apple (or BB) and refuse to use their products. NSA with a logo. Anyways, I guess I will still have to purchase this TUNE2AIR, but I have a question... Does anything work that is NOT IPHONE? Tested?

Did they only install BT streaming in the 2013 Flagship cars?

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