Want Bluetooth Streaming... Tell Audi!

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Agilis

Discussion Starter · Nov 17, 2011 (Edited)

Hey everyone,

So there is still no word on Bluetooth Streaming using A2DP profile which got me thinking.

Audi's 2 slogans, "Truth in Engineering" and "Innovation through Technology". I feel both slogans are straight up lies as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the lack of support for this technology. You know, several customers are asking "WHY" there is no Bluetooth Streaming support in our vehicles, vehicles that cost 3 times as much as vehicles that come standard with Bluetooth Streaming, and Audi still has not given us a direct answer why we have been slighted.

So lets do something about this...

First, lets show Audi how dissatisfied we are by leaving negative reviews/feedback for their Bluetooth adapter for MMI 2G set ups.

Bluetooth Streaming Audio

I'm hoping this will inundate their systems because lets face it, the newer radio, MMI 3G, doesn't support something an older radio supports. This is absolutely despicable on Audi's part and I know others already agree.

Second: Contact Audi like I did:
Audi of America > About Audi > Contact

Now I contacted AoA using the Email method. One method may be preferred by you over another one. So go for it and don't hold back! After all, you spent a lot of money on your vehicle, and you have a right to demand some sort of answer.

I'm hoping that maybe we can light a fire up under Audi's you know what.

Now here's the drive and the reason why this could work:

The amount of people asking for Audi to support A2DP is shocking and Audi needs to know about this. My attempt at contacting was successful in the fact the rep forwarded my complaint to the proper channels and I'm afraid that's how far it went. So perhaps we need to push for an answer and that's what this is all about!

We as customers have nothing to lose.

So please, participate. Go ahead and ask on different boards (A4/S4) and other forums, and other places, for their members to participate. Maybe it's possible to get Fortitude, or other blogs/media channels, to pressure Audi.

If anyone has any other ideas, please post them here, I'm sure they'll be good.

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gruffle

· #2 · Nov 17, 2011

Dont wish to be a killjoy ... but imho it won't happen.
Especially now as the facelift model has it.

Audi will just say it proved not to be possible to add to the old spec MMI, so they have provided it in the new one.

Just trying to save you some false hope.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 17, 2011 (Edited)

So the 2012 Facelifted A5/S5 has the Bluetooth Streaming but 2012 models, before the Facelift do not. How ridiculous is that?! Damn right dispicable and that's even a greater reason to pressure Audi and contact them about the lack of support for A2DP and an answer WHY it has not been made available.

Audi could even go the route as to offer an upgrade program for those with an older version of MMI 3G. I'm sure, many existing owners, myself included, wanting this feature, would pay to have their MMI 3G upgraded or swapped out to have the new hardware.

I just want a clear answer. Audi is slighting their customers, and it's not right. I have contacted Audi again and waiting to hear back from them. I may even use their Audi Live Chat.

Update: Talking to my dealer who has no problem talking to me about this sort of stuff, informed me that the 2013 models, which are the face-lifted models, won't be arriving any time soon and he has no schematics for that model year. So can anyone actually confirm that the Face-lifted models being delivered do in fact support the A2DP profile?

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nammers

· #4 · Nov 17, 2011

Agilis said:
So the 2012 Facelifted A5/S5 has the Bluetooth Streaming but 2012 models, before the Facelift do not. How ridiculous is that?! Damn right dispicable and that's even a greater reason to pressure Audi and contact them about the lack of support for A2DP and an answer WHY it has not been made available.

Audi could even go the route as to offer an upgrade program for those with an older version of MMI 3G. I'm sure, many existing owners, myself included, wanting this feature, would pay to have their MMI 3G upgraded or swapped out to have the new hardware.

I just want a clear answer. Audi is slighting their customers, and it's not right. I have contacted Audi again and waiting to hear back from them. I may even use their Audi Live Chat.

Update: Talking to my dealer who has no problem talking to me about this sort of stuff, informed me that the 2013 models, which are the face-lifted models, won't be arriving any time soon and he has no schematics for that model year. So can anyone actually confirm that the Face-lifted models being delivered do in fact support the A2DP profile?

Yes, it has been confirmed that the new facelifted a5 will have the next generation MMI, which is the same is the current 2012 A6. I have the 2012 A5, my brother picked up the 2012 A6 at the same time; and I can guarantee you that our MMI is definitely not the same (his is awesome). He also has Bluetooth streaming audio built in as well. It has also been stated that the new MMI can display album art and things like that if you play music from a media source such as an SD card.

gruffle

· #5 · Nov 17, 2011

Agilis said:
I'm sure, many existing owners, myself included, wanting this feature, would pay to have their MMI 3G upgraded or swapped out to have the new hardware.

Want - well yes it would be a nice feature but the car is not exactly [email protected] without it.Doubt many would upgrade for the money that's going to cost .. it's an entirely new system and controller in the facelift model.

I say keep your car for a year or so, enjoy it, and upgrade to the Facelift version if A2DP is that important to you.

Or just stick a 500GB drive in the glovebox with more music on it than you can listen to in a lifetime.

Agilis said:
Audi is slighting their customers, and it's not right.

How do you get that?
It has been discussed of course, but I have never seen it in any Audi documentation.

Chill out a bit fella :cheers:

Evil Derboy

· #6 · Nov 17, 2011

Why the hell do you want it? My current car has it and the quality isn't as good as other media and it runs the phone battery done unless its tucked away charging. I never, ever use it It's not an essential feature by any means.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 18, 2011

gruffle said:
How do you get that?
It has been discussed of course, but I have never seen it in any Audi documentation.

I guess I'm just upset that a company like Audi, who celebrates the latest technology, wouldn't figure out a way to bring such a convenient feature to their customers, especially when cars worth a quarter as much have it. Just erks me.

Now, other than the infamous Brabec saying streaming could be supported with a SW update, there has not been any other mention of it. But with the large amount of people asking for this feature, how can they ignore it? With the large amount of money people are paying for these cars, I feel it's wrong of Audi not to give us something.

But don't worry, I'm calm now. I ordered a shopping list of parts that should allow me to implement streaming.

Oh, I like the 500GB idea but that would be a lot of music but still doesn't allow you to stream Pandora or Spotify.

Thanks for you comments and :cheers:

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 25, 2011 (Edited)

Hey everyone,

The awesome Audi Exec. Case Support Specialist finally got a hold me after several games of phone tag and what an awesome conversation we had. :thumbsup: The main focus of the conversation was the Bluetooth Streaming. Bottom line, he thinks it's only a matter of time before there is some sort of update or device available. Here's why...

They, at Audi of America, are getting an overwhelming number of requests for Bluetooth Streaming and something needs to be done. He has seen a trend developing regarding the content of the emails he has been reading. They are aware of these forums on the subject, and Facebook and Twitter accounts are alerted to the issue.

Now Audi of America is really pushing for Bluetooth Streaming because of the overwhelming response received by Audi owners. They just need to convince Audi of Germany. Something AoA is using for leverage is this:

The 2013 facelifted models have the Bluetooth Streaming, and are pretty identical with minor changes to the existing MMI 3G systems. He assured me that the radios are not much different, they do not have the touch pad addition, they look and operate the same. He believes Audii of Germany will need to have an answer/solution once existing MMI 3G owners get wind of this and respond.

So this is good news for those wanting Bluetooth Streaming with their MMI 3G.:cheers:

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nivcogn

· #9 · Dec 2, 2011

Done!
Thanks.

I can't believe that Audi could implement Bluetooth streaming in my 2010 A5 when cars half or a third of the price comes with it!

I have no comment on those who don't understand the need for Bluetooth streaming.
Oh, wait...they don't need an Audi they can just use a single speed bicycle to get them from point A to point B. And if they need storage with their vehicle they can pay for rack upgrade and maybe a premium saddle bag option...water proof is extra!

nammers

· #10 · Dec 5, 2011

Agilis said:
Hey everyone,

The awesome Audi Exec. Case Support Specialist finally got a hold me after several games of phone tag and what an awesome conversation we had. :thumbsup: The main focus of the conversation was the Bluetooth Streaming. Bottom line, he thinks it's only a matter of time before there is some sort of update or device available. Here's why...

They, at Audi of America, are getting an overwhelming number of requests for Bluetooth Streaming and something needs to be done. He has seen a trend developing regarding the content of the emails he has been reading. They are aware of these forums on the subject, and Facebook and Twitter accounts are alerted to the issue.

Now Audi of America is really pushing for Bluetooth Streaming because of the overwhelming response received by Audi owners. They just need to convince Audi of Germany. Something AoA is using for leverage is this:

The 2013 facelifted models have the Bluetooth Streaming, and are pretty identical with minor changes to the existing MMI 3G systems. He assured me that the radios are not much different, they do not have the touch pad addition, they look and operate the same. He believes Audii of Germany will need to have an answer/solution once existing MMI 3G owners get wind of this and respond.

So this is good news for those wanting Bluetooth Streaming with their MMI 3G.:cheers:

This is great news that they are listening... Everyone, please keep us updated as you learn more or hear additional detail from Audi!

Mediaboy

· #11 · Dec 5, 2011

Hi.

My 2012 A5 is on order to be built in week 03 2012.

I wanted BT audio streaming, but now I'd rather not have it. It drains the battery (iPhone) and there is a sound quality hit too. No point in having a B&O sound system and putting low quality audio through it.

I'm going to keep my phone for BT calls and use an older iPod in the glove via AMI to provide the music.

I testing all this on an A5 I had on loan for the weekend and it worked very well.

Hope that helps you.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #12 · Dec 5, 2011

Mediaboy said:
Hi.

My 2012 A5 is on order to be built in week 03 2012.

I wanted BT audio streaming, but now I'd rather not have it. It drains the battery (iPhone) and there is a sound quality hit too. No point in having a B&O sound system and putting low quality audio through it.

I'm going to keep my phone for BT calls and use an older iPod in the glove via AMI to provide the music.

I testing all this on an A5 I had on loan for the weekend and it worked very well.

Hope that helps you.

I disagree. There is no quality difference between a Bluetooth connection and an iPhone/iPod hooked up through a cable. This is mostly because Bluetooth v4.0, which I know the the iPhone/iTouch uses, has more than enough bandwidth when it comes to not sacrificing audio quality. Now, if there is a difference, you're kidding yourself if you think you'll be able to detect the difference.

The real difference is the either the player, the source, or a combination of the 2. A member here switched from an Android phone to an iPod Touch and heard a world of difference when it came to the quality. If you're listening to a low bit rate stream vs a 'premium' stream, you're going to hear a difference, guaranteed. For example, I subscribe to Digitally Imported Premium and listen to 128 AAC and it sounds great compared to their lower end streams.

williamhop102

· #13 · Apr 12, 2013

Hi guys, sorry I have got A5 but I've got A4 sedan, as I was search some information about the A2DP and I come across this thread and can't wait to tell you guys that I've got an alternative adaptor from ViseeO called Tune2Air WMA1000 which works with my A4 AMI. It will supports wirelessly stream music and also allow you to wireless browse music list, see the song title on the original in-car display. It also allows me controlling the music directly from the head unit control. This music list function only works with my iPhone. I have tested this tiny device with my friend's android phone (galaxy 3) which also works well however, with android it does not support the music library browsing though. Sportify online music service is also supported. You can stream music from Sportify app to the head unit via WMA1000. Again like the android phone it does not support music list though. Only Apple's device is supported for the music library I guess.

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Rinzler

· #14 · Apr 12, 2013

Link me, please.

stencil

· #15 · Apr 12, 2013

williamhop102 said:
Hi guys, sorry I have got A5 but I've got A4 sedan, as I was search some information about the A2DP and I come across this thread and can't wait to tell you guys that I've got an alternative adaptor from ViseeO called Tune2Air WMA1000 which works with my A4 AMI. It will supports wirelessly stream music and also allow you to wireless browse music list, see the song title on the original in-car display. It also allows me controlling the music directly from the head unit control. This music list function only works with my iPhone. I have tested this tiny device with my friend's android phone (galaxy 3) which also works well however, with android it does not support the music library browsing though. Sportify online music service is also supported. You can stream music from Sportify app to the head unit via WMA1000. Again like the android phone it does not support music list though. Only Apple's device is supported for the music library I guess.

Hmm. 2 posts, both about this device. Fishy.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 15, 2013

stencil said:
Hmm. 2 posts, both about this device. Fishy.

Not "Fishy" at all. AirPlay solution for AMI....

Looks to be a spectacular device if it works like everyone says it does. I'll know soon enough. Should be here this week. :thumbsup:

AudiStype

· #17 · Apr 15, 2013

hey Agilis, as you may know my car and your car have pretty much the same exact tech, and I can tell you that that bluetooth Adapter works like a charm.

I simply hooked it up to the audi, then entered in the pin "0000" and it worked perfectly. There was no change in sound quality either. But i do have one issue. The issue is when my phone is connected to the Audi's bluetooth and the Adapter's bluetooth there are issues with phone calls and i'm not to sure how to fix it. it makes a weird sound that i cant really explain, but overall I think it works better than the one Audi make now because you can also see your whole music library on the dashboard and stuff as well. Unlike in the newer Audi 2013, you cant look all of your music library.

Pandora and other third party application work as well.

hope this helped, and sorry about the grammar errors i wrote this up quickly.

Agilis

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 15, 2013

AudiStype said:
hey Agilis, as you may know my car and your car have pretty much the same exact tech, and I can tell you that that bluetooth Adapter works like a charm.

I simply hooked it up to the audi, then entered in the pin "0000" and it worked perfectly. There was no change in sound quality either. But i do have one issue. The issue is when my phone is connected to the Audi's bluetooth and the Adapter's bluetooth there are issues with phone calls and i'm not to sure how to fix it. it makes a weird sound that i cant really explain, but overall I think it works better than the one Audi make now because you can also see your whole music library on the dashboard and stuff as well. Unlike in the newer Audi 2013, you cant look all of your music library.

Pandora and other third party application work as well.

hope this helped, and sorry about the grammar errors i wrote this up quickly.

No problem. Thanks for the info. How does Third Party applications work if the phone is operating in Accessory Mode while connected to the Tune2Air. Then again I'll be using an iPhone and things may be more restrictive.

The noise you hear is it like a clicking? I think that is an issue with the 2 profiles connected at the same time. The only BT device I had that does not do this was the BlueRidge device.

It's highly annoying maybe can be fixed via Firmware.

edunwody

· #19 · Apr 15, 2013

I've had no issues with my Tune2air unit.
Hands free works great along with all streaming apps.

Hope this helps.

E

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

AudiStype

· #20 · Apr 16, 2013

damn i wish i knew how to fix that its so annoying, and ideas on how to fix this would help.

And Agilis, third party application works fine as well but when you use third party songs have to be changed by phone I never tried it through the dashboard but it might work because the songs come up but doesn't list the name is says "No title" or something like that on the dashboard. i hope this made sense.

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