all weather tyres perform in summer less than summer tyres.
and they perform less in winter than winter tyres.
apart from that, they are usually just as noisy than winter tyres

 

The Michelin ones are a summer tyre with winter capabilities.
Quieter than summer tyres, no noticable increase stopping distance in the dry/summer, good wear. Performs like a winter tyre in snow and ice.
Admittedly all season are usually the opposite, winter tyres with some less wear, poor summer braking etc.
Just asking ask in the past i have had put winter tyres on my cars. Only the second winter with a quattro, from rwd cars.
Tyres are due to be replaced soon.

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would probably depend where you are as in pretty much rest of the eu you would have to have two sets of tyres by law, but if youre in such a wonderful place like uk all you need is all rounders and especially with Quattro.
used to have Michelins and they do last good while, but currently on conti sports as you cant really change just the two of other brand, unless youre doing all corners same time then youre pretty much stuck with what you have to start with

 

A good set of winter tyres will easily out perform a quattro car with summer/all season tyres. The everyday tyre fitted to most of our cars are a huge width and traction is still going to be poor. Yes its better any day than a 2wd with all season but winter tyres will be ideal in the cold due to the softer compound

 

They are a 'happy medium' tyre which will perform better across the seasons, but not as good as the tyre that is designed for a particular season. If you are not out to get a the best performing summer tyre and drive your car through the whole year, then the all season tyre will be fine. But don't expect it to perform like a winter tyre, these are a whole different ball game.

In the UK, the all season tyre will probably be enough.

Having said that, I did put some Hankook V12 Evo summer tyres on my A5 3.0tdi Quattro. They got me down the Snake Pass, when it was closed due to snow!

I have a set of Michelin Alpins winter tyres waiting for the first bit of snow.

 

I really don't understand this. You go and buy a bazillain $/pound car and then want to get tires that limit its performance in the summer and the winter. Just go ahead and get high performance summer tire and also a set of winter tires.

If you don't want maximum performance, why did you buy the car in the first place?

 

would you go and buy yourself an umbrella for £1000/$1000 if it rains one day of the year?
why would all season tyres limit you on the road when you can only drive 70mph at max and i dont think anyone is talking about budget tyres, the point is that there isnt much of a point unless you dont have anywhere else to spend your money on, but a set of winter tyres which would be used probably for 5days of the year, i would rather get a remap for all of that i would spend on tyres which will never be used

 

Again, I don't understand. If you can only go 70mph, why spend the money for a car that goes 150mph? Maybe it is because I live in a place where snow tires really are an advantage in the winter, remembering that Quattro doesn't help you stop faster. And, In the summer high performance tires improve steering and handling. Having 2 sets of tires means that you don't have to replace them as often, although storage is necessary and the up front outlay is greater.

But I think that an S5/A5 should be driven as designed. My opinion.

 

The speed of the vehicle is irrelevant and so is the cost of vehicle. What matters is being able to swerve around the child that has run out into the road and when taking the bend on the motorway with your family is what matters in the performance of the tyre and maybe your favourite road .

Yes I understand your point of buying a premium car then, pardon the Americanism, cheap out on tyres, but that's not the question here. The OP is asking if CC tyres are any good over buying summer tyres.

The UK's climate doesn't generally have the extremities of weather as other countries, in which some stipulate by law that you have summer or winter tyres fitted. The UKs weather tends to blend into each season making it a cross seasonal climate and for the UK, cross climate tyres are a good idea.

I have branded summer tyres on my S5, but they are still not the best, do I scrap them and spend more money on a better performing tyre, probably, but the price isn't the point.

A good cross climate tyre could be just as good as some 'performance summer' tyres, but with the benefit of not as likely to get stuck in a bit of snow as a summer tyre.

Tyres are a very subjective product and 1 particular tyre could be amazing on 1 car, but no good on another! I had Goodyear F1s on my Audi A4 (front wheel drive) as did my parents on their Rover 75, in 2010 when we had a 'bad winter', my A4 got 3 feet, so used the Rover and got a 20 mile trip! It just gripped in snow whereas my A4 with exactly the same tyres wouldn't even get 3 ft!

I have no experience of CC tyres so would have to rely on reviews, but unless you're in the position of being able to have 2 sets of tyres, the CCs maybe a viable option when taking ultimate performance out of the equation.

 

Sorry everyone I really didn't mean to kick a hornet's nest.
Well I have read all the reviews I could, but none for a 255/35 R19. Notably the largest tyres in the CC+ range.
I am fast approaching my 50's, don't need the latest ultra performance tyre, with high noise levels and high wear. Nor would I ever contemplate budget tyres, brakes, suspension etc.
So I have ordered a set of CC+ tyres. To be fitted on Monday.
For my driving I have my fingers crossed they fit the bill. Where I live in a little hamlet on top of a huge hill we are normally cut of with snow for a day or two a year, one of the places I work is down a country lane with mud throughout the year.
If anyone is interested I will add my thoughts once on the tyres in a few months when I have had time to evaluate.
Thanks again for everyone who gave their views.

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Ah there’s nothing like a bit of healthy debate! As DK says, tyre choice can be a personal thing depending on many factors.
I for one will be very interested in your opinion of the CC+ when you’ve had them on a while. I’ll be needing a new set shortly, and would likely go for the same type I have now (fitted from new) which are Hankook Ventus Evo 2 summers, but could be swayed by a good review.


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"Driven as designed" is illegal and also being an ass to those around you. Just because you can do 150 doesn't mean you should. Manufacturers make cars capable of that just to one-up the other manufacturers.

 

I never said that I "drive as designed". Being an ass to those around me has nothing to do with it. Not being crazy is far more important, especially to not ending up flipped or crunched somewhere. In actual fact, I was astounded when my salesperson suggested that I set the speed warning at 110 mph. I have it set at 85 mph and very rarely does it sound - only when passing on 2 lane roads if absolutely necessary at that point.

What I really implied was you have purchased a high performance car. And as DK said, there really is something about getting high performance control. Not speed in a straight line, but being able to turn, swerve (hopefully never), and stop to the best of the car's ability. So, from the performance only standpoint, two sets of tires are better if you ever get into winter snow conditions. Remembering that high performance "summer" tires don't do so well even when dry when the temperatures are low.

All seasons are a compromise all around. I can't use them because I'd never be able to get up my driveway in the winter if I didn't run snow tires which help on both snow and ice.

 

I'd say use whatever tyres you deem necessary to get the best out of your car in whatever climate you're in. If an all season tyre loses a bit of performance on a dry day and a bit of performance on a snowy day yet still works absolutely fine in those conditions and everything else in between then why not?
In reality how often are we pushing our cars to the absolute limits on the public road? The answer is not often therefore a slight compromise isnt such a big deal.
One BIG thing to check though is your insurance. Some companies consider this as a modification and can even put the premium up. On the other hand if you don't tell your insurance company and you have an accident they could wriggle out of paying up if they weren't made aware.
It's worth checking first.

 

One BIG thing to check though is your insurance. Some companies consider this as a modification and can even put the premium up. On the other hand if you don't tell your insurance company and you have an accident they could wriggle out of paying up if they weren't made aware.
It's worth checking first.

Can't see how it would legally hold water not telling your ins company and them not paying out etc, as it's not a legal stipulation for specific season tyres to be fitted, so long as they are the correct size, speed rating etc. then all good. They could be plastic Goodyangs, but so long as the tyre spec suits the recommended spec, which is sizes, speed rating etc, then they can be as slippery mofos, aquaplaning, useless get out and walk as they want to be Unfortunately no stipulation on how good the tyre is.

 

OK that's cool then. I'd read some stories in the past where insurers had put up premiums due to different tyre types. Maybe there was more to it like different speed ratings or something. I just hate that those squirmy insurance companies will do anything to wriggle out of paying out it they can find something. If you've checked it out and all's well that's good. ?

 

Think you are correct. When its numpties (imo) like to stretch tyres or run on track use only tyres.


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