I guess I should have figured that myself considering one of my friends is a car salesman. In other words - I've heard stories.Salesmen will tell you anything to get you to buy the car. Seeing as the S5 will be the first model released into the US. I am sure more than 1 per dealer will be available.
Upon placing my deposit to order my car my dealer had a little bit more information.I guess I should have figured that myself considering one of my friends is a car salesman. In other words - I've heard stories.
I emailed him back - Told him that well if they are only getting one, it probaly will be a color that I do not like. Now he is going to get back with me cause he will be getting updated info.
Thanks for the "tip" ... I am going to call another dealership tomorrow.
I have been in contact with 2 dealerships... Cavender Audi, San Antonio, TX and with Roger Beasley Audi, Austin, TX.I'm also looking to purchase a new S5, and wanted to begin a dialogue with my local dealer. I'm an Audi Club member for the Golden Gate chapter, so it's likely that I will workwith Carlsen Audi in Palo Alto, CA. Can you tell me which dealer you are speaking to, and can you also pass on any other information that might be useful to both of us as we look to plan a purchase of a new A5 or S5?
I hope this makes sense ... typed in a hurry.I am not sure if anyone has noticed but on the bottom of the audi website http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/A5.html under the A5 and under the S5 it says Available late Fall 2007
I have been in contact with 2 dealerships... Cavender Audi, San Antonio, TX and with Roger Beasley Audi, Austin, TX.
Even though I live in San Antonio I will probably purchase from Austin. The salesman I have been primarily dealing with in San Antonio is just throwing out information at me with really no factual standings behind it. For example, the first time I emailed the salesman on info for the new Audi, the response was "The new Audi S5 is going to be the hottest car on the street."
Wow!! That really makes me want to buy it.... but not from them.
I got in contact with the next closes dealership which is only about 60 miles away.
They take a deposit and it basically puts you in line. When the “Audi builds” come out they ask the first person if they want one, then the second and so on. If you dont choose one of the first "batches" you do not loose your place in line, you just get your place in line choice for the next batch.
Then if you want a custom order.... if I was not mistaken... they told me 10 to 12 weeks for delivery.
The conversation was based totally on the S5… no mention of the A5 coming out this year, but on Audi’s website they have both of them coming out Late fall 2007. --- Prior post ---
I hope this makes sense ... typed in a hurry.
That is 2 dealerships with this process, as it appears from wrx_xb9r’s post.
Hey wrx_xb9r … does the xb9r refer to the Buell XB9R??
lol no RS5 just yet, they have to do an RS version of something a little bigger... hint hint. and in case u dont already know they've killed the RS4 already. so yeah there might be a hot version of the A5 to nail the coffins for M3s
You give far too much credit to the M3. The M3 is only fractionally faster in the straights due to the low torque (295 versus 325 lbs feet for the S5) and through the twisties -- who knows yet. Top Gear was able to beat the old M3 on the track with the B6 S4. It's more about driver skill and knowing the differences between the car's dynamics.I don't really understand what it is, that you are trying to convey. If you are referring to the RS5. Yes, it will be a threat to the M3; but a different kind of threat. The S5 won't do any harm to the M.
I would condiser the M a tad heavy, so the RS5 will be a pig; albiet a very fast one, but not very agile.
All cool cars, though.
I would think that the S5 will be priced in the mid $50's; maybe I am too optimistic, but I can hope. If it is, I am getting one.
As far as the S5 being able to "kill" the new M3...well, sorry but either you're really blindly brand loyal or not too informed about cars. The new M will run circles around the S5. It will be lighter, have less parasitic hp loss due to having one less diff., have 60 hp more, better brakes and a sportier suspension. The S5 albiet, likely, a great car is marketed as a direct competitor to the 335xi, not the new M.
As much as I love the idea of the S5, it better be in the upper fifties or less, or the 335xi with better resale and a much lower cost of admission -with better gas mileage to boot- will be a better value.
Audi even claims only 5.1 0-62 when BMW is claiming 4.8 for the same run. It will get worse as the speed increases. And, the M will simply crush the S5 in the twisties.
Agreed. The M3 is a chavs car. I see so many of them driven by nob'eds who have no idea how to drive, but they want it for the name. To be honest, I would never buy a BMW purely for that reason.. I wouldn't want to be associated with a large portion of BMWs demographic. Now that may sound snobbish, but unfortunately that really is how I feel about them.You give far too much credit to the M3. The M3 is only fractionally faster in the straights due to the low torque (295 versus 325 lbs feet for the S5) and through the twisties -- who knows yet. Top Gear was able to beat the old M3 on the track with the B6 S4. It's more about driver skill and knowing the differences between the car's dynamics.
But even if the M3 gets to 60 in .1 or .2 seconds faster and is a fraction faster in the quarter mile.. who cares? It looks hideous and every douchebag with 60K who wants some kind of bragging rights will buy one. Who wants to be a member of that club?
You give far too much credit to the M3. The M3 is only fractionally faster in the straights due to the low torque (295 versus 325 lbs feet for the S5) and through the twisties -- who knows yet. Top Gear was able to beat the old M3 on the track with the B6 S4. It's more about driver skill and knowing the differences between the car's dynamics.
But even if the M3 gets to 60 in .1 or .2 seconds faster and is a fraction faster in the quarter mile.. who cares? It looks hideous and every douchebag with 60K who wants some kind of bragging rights will buy one. Who wants to be a member of that club?
Agreed. The M3 is a chavs car. I see so many of them driven by nob'eds who have no idea how to drive, but they want it for the name. To be honest, I would never buy a BMW purely for that reason.. I wouldn't want to be associated with a large portion of BMWs demographic. Now that may sound snobbish, but unfortunately that really is how I feel about them.
Under normal driving conditions (not on a race track etc) the S4 has been proven to be quicker than the M3. That leads me to believe that the S5 will do even better. The RS4 has proven quicker than the new not yet for sale M3 coupe, so I can only imagine that the new RS4 and the RS5 will blow it out of the water on the track as well as continue to do so on the roads.
You give far too much credit to the M3. The M3 is only fractionally faster in the straights due to the low torque (295 versus 325 lbs feet for the S5) and through the twisties -- who knows yet. Top Gear was able to beat the old M3 on the track with the B6 S4. It's more about driver skill and knowing the differences between the car's dynamics.
But even if the M3 gets to 60 in .1 or .2 seconds faster and is a fraction faster in the quarter mile.. who cares? It looks hideous and every douchebag with 60K who wants some kind of bragging rights will buy one. Who wants to be a member of that club?
If you believe that the Audi's torque advantage with make it a faster car in the STRAIGHTS, you are very ill-informed about high performance cars.
The 0-60 and 0-62 sprint data is for people like you, that can't comprehend what it takes to propel a car forward with such velocity. The HP of the M vs. the lack of it on the S5 (414 vs. 354; with a greater disparity to the wheels because of Audi's extra diff.-and their inability to build a proper rwd car.) will make for a faster straight line acceleration. The lower weight and attention BMW has given to created a center mass between the bumpers, with far less overhang, currently yields a car as close to a mid engine car, without going to a mid-engine design.
The real test of a car's HP is the standard 1/4 mile. The S5 barely matches the E46's 1/4 mile times and trap speeds; the E92 M will simply WALK away from it.
Even the 0-100 is indicative of a car's HP. The M has run that sprint in the low 10 sec. range. The only advantage the S5 has is it's launch by virtue of it's AWD. After the launch, the M will spank it. The RS5 IS another story, but as I mentionead above, it's going to be too expensive. And, it's more of a GT car than the M will be.
In the end, they are all beautiful cars, but, this BLINDLY BRAND LOYAL crap clearly illustrates what limited insight and/or foresight you have.
The S5 has worse brakes than the M3; what are you smoking? They are not even cross drilled.Devo, interesting viewpoint in your post.
How is it that the M3 is going to be "running circles" around an S5?
First look at past history... The last M3 lost to the last S4 on the track. The M3 never ran circles over the S4, it was slightly faster and more of a drivers car but both the B5 and B6 S4s took the top spot in numerous magazines. Recently, the current M5 lost to the S6 on the track even though it was down 65bhp.
Fast-forward to today's facts:
The M3 weighs slightly more than the S5 AND this is with the Audi having AWD...
The Convertible (and heavier) RS4 beat the New M3
The S5 has more torque than the M3 (325ft/lbs vs. 295ft/lbs)
The S5 has better brakes than the M3.
The 335 is rated by BMW at 5.3 sec to 62 and best was 4.8 running tweeked boost for a magazine test
The S5 is rated by Audi at 5.1 sec to 62 and has posted a 4.5 and recently a 4.9 in nearly 100 degree heat.
Resale: Many magazines are already saying that the S5 will have excellent resale value, and there's no reason to think it won't hold it's value better than an everyday 335i at the very least. The S5 is easily better than the 335 but admittedly not as hard-edged as the M3. I do agree with you saying that the S5 won't kill the M3, this is left for the 450bhp/500 ft/lbs 5.0 liter twin-turbo RS5
