[TenCC]

That did the trick Thanks very much.

Thanks to all awesome people here.

Maps are now activated and does not disappear in about 5 minutes?

and the trick was to upload the acios.db ini file?

 

[Roozbeh84]

Maps are now activated and does not disappear in about 5 minutes?

and the trick was to upload the acios.db ini file?

Yes that's right. I had to also copy back modified mmelauncher.cfg to the system.

 

[DrGER]

I haven't been able to tease out when and how file acios.db gets updated following a navigation database update. System process vdev-logvolmgr seems to be involved, but to do what, exactly, is not clear to me, particularly with regard to the so-called "activation" process.

Could it be that applying the "activator" script too soon following a successful nav database update can cause the acios.db file update (to the new database filenames) to fail ? My advice to people new to this process is to always wait until the MMI system displays the "nav data is blocked" message before applying the (correct) "activator" script.

In any case, thanks to @TenCC for offering some more QNX/Unix shell scripting service to the community. --g

 

[missoervin]

You should be able to restore the previous state by "updating" the software to HN+_US_AU3G_K0942_6 and changing the region settings in the Green Engineering Menu back to NAR. You can find HN+_US_AU3G_K0942_6 HERE. You might need to do this as a "user defined" software update (from the Green Engineering Menu). --g

these are the configurations of the green menu before I updated the firmware. do you know if there is something wrong?. the issue is that I can't find the update button because it doesn't appear.

 

[DrGER]

@missoervin : These GEM screens should be set "internal region code" back to "[North America] 4/7" and nav database to "[North America] 4/18", and restart. If that doesn't bring back control label text for you, someone with more experience will need to offer a solution to this. --g

 

[missoervin]

@missoervin : These GEM screens should be set "internal region code" back to "[North America] 4/7" and nav database to "[North America] 4/18", and restart. If that doesn't bring back control label text for you, someone with more experience will need to offer a solution to this. --g

ok thanks, I'll try it tomorrow with the fw you suggested

 

[TenCC]

Yes that's right. I had to also copy back modified mmelauncher.cfg to the system.

Ok glad to hear it is fixed. Question from my side, do you have googleearth enabled and active? I know it is in another thread, but i, am curious and searching for a fix for the older navs

 

[DrGER]

... do you have googleearth enabled and active? I know it is in another thread, but i, am curious and searching for a fix for the older navs

It's been working fine in our '14 A4 with the original GEMMI client since last fall (and now that we don't have 3G data anymore, with the external LTE router I installed back in April). I have a couple posts here about GE and our older 3G+ systems:

MMI 3G+ and Google Earth: Why Does GE Still Work on Some...

As many of you know, the Google Earth (GE) image overlay for vector maps was officially "turned off" for Audi vehicles with GE client software in December 2020. Then, in late March 2021, various users reported that the GE image overlay started working again, without warning, though the official...

www.a5oc.com

and
MMI 3G+/3GP Mobile Data Connectivity Options Post 3G... --g

 

[Ranjodh]

Hi everyone , I got Audi Q5 and currently my software version is HNav_EU_P0022_D1 ,Which firmware should I chose there is 4 options ,
Audi A4-A5-Q5-Q7
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 - Stock firmware
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0942 - Stock firmware
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0942 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems
please help me and one more question should i update maps first or Firmware?
thanks in advance

 

[JulianHicks]

@Ranjodh, you're in the wrong thread for your car's firmware updates. This forum's firmware is for 3GPlus systems and you have a 3GHigh system. For firmware updates you need this forum

MMI 3G navigation 6.30.1 Europe - currently 2020

2020 maps version 6.30.1 - PLEASE NOTE - this package is ONLY suitable for 3G and not 3G+/3GP so if your firmware version doesn't match the style indicated in the instructions do not bother downloading this file, as it's been cut down to make the download smaller and so it'll fit on a 32GB SD...

www.a5oc.com

You upgrade the firmware first and then the maps, which you can get from this thread.

 

[Roozbeh84]

Ok glad to hear it is fixed. Question from my side, do you have googleearth enabled and active? I know it is in another thread, but i, am curious and searching for a fix for the older navs

No I haven't got GE. My car does not have a Sim card. Or not that I am aware of

 

[masa77]

Hi, I just downloaded maps from link:

Maps & activator:

Europe
6.34.1 2022 MMI 3G High/Plus Europe [Link on Mega (use 7z/7zip to open the files)] Password: 8R0051884JN

There is an activator included when I unpacked the files, but there is another link to an activator on the first page of this thread as well:


Activator [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega]

I have already installed firmware HN+R_EU_AU_K0942 Modified firmware - User Defined Mode / No Sound systems

I am just confused which activator to use
I do not want to brick MMI or something
Any help would be appreciated

 

[JulianHicks]

@masa77, you're right to be confused. There are two different activators; one for 3G High systems and one for 3G Plus systems. Each type has several versions which attempt to do the same thing.

Since you have a 3G Plus system as you've mentioned the HN+ update, I would suggest you use the activator that came with the maps, since you can look at the source file run.sh with Notepad.

Just wait at least 5 minutes after the MMI reboots following the map update [which takes about 90 mins] before inserting the SD with the activator. The MMI screen should say 'Navigation blocked' before you run the activator SD.

 

[TenCC]

@masa77, you're right to be confused. There are two different activators; one for 3G High systems and one for 3G Plus systems. Each type has several versions which attempt to do the same thing.

Since you have a 3G Plus system as you've mentioned the HN+ update, I would suggest you use the activator that came with the maps, since you can look at the source file run.sh with Notepad.

Just wait at least 5 minutes after the MMI reboots following the map update [which takes about 90 mins] before inserting the SD with the activator. The MMI screen should say 'Navigation blocked' before you run the activator SD.

Maybe is this the most important step "Just wait at least 5 minutes after the MMI reboots following the map update [which takes about 90 mins] before inserting the SD with the activator. The MMI screen should say 'Navigation blocked' before you run the activator SD. "

Maybe this information is worth to mention in the manual how to install the maps in post nr 1

Maybe is the runtime in the activator "waitfor /mnt/lvm/acios_db.ini 180" to short and does 180 (sec or ticks) to be updated to 240 sec or even 300 seconds. Its worth to investigate.

 

[TenCC]

I haven't been able to tease out when and how file acios.db gets updated following a navigation database update. System process vdev-logvolmgr seems to be involved, but to do what, exactly, is not clear to me, particularly with regard to the so-called "activation" process.

Could it be that applying the "activator" script too soon following a successful nav database update can cause the acios.db file update (to the new database filenames) to fail ? My advice to people new to this process is to always wait until the MMI system displays the "nav data is blocked" message before applying the (correct) "activator" script.

In any case, thanks to @TenCC for offering some more QNX/Unix shell scripting service to the community. --g

Maybe is the runtime in the activator "waitfor /mnt/lvm/acios_db.ini 180" to short and does 180 (sec or ticks) to be updated to 240 sec or even 300 seconds. Its worth to investigate.

 

[DrGER]

Maybe is the runtime in the activator "waitfor /mnt/lvm/acios_db.ini 180" to short and does 180 (sec or ticks) to be updated to 240 sec or even 300 seconds. Its worth to investigate.

The correct procedure for so-called navigation data "activation" on our older 3G High/Plus systems is to wait for the "navigation is blocked" message to appear, then insert the "activation" SD card into slot 1 and wait for the system to restart itself. I believe the original 3G+ "activation" script comes from H-B, though some people disagree. In any case, we know the script in mme-becker.sh is correct (since "activation" works as intended) when applied correctly.

What you're proposing is a change to the "activation" script itself, which shouldn't be allowed to continue until some known condition exists (in this case, the navigation data being blocked), but how would the script know that ? I think we would need to examine both 3G High and Plus systems that are in the "blocked" state to determine what that condition might be. Until then, end-users who are only following instructions they find on the internet (sometimes incorrectly) are on their own mostly. --g

 

[missoervin]

You should be able to restore the previous state by "updating" the software to HN+_US_AU3G_K0942_6 and changing the region settings in the Green Engineering Menu back to NAR. You can find HN+_US_AU3G_K0942_6 HERE. You might need to do this as a "user defined" software update (from the Green Engineering Menu). --g

I tried this firmware but it doesn't install and I can't read what the message says. what I think is 'no update device found' because it looks like it only gives me an option 'back' please anyone help me to go back or something. thanks

 

[masa77]

@masa77, you're right to be confused. There are two different activators; one for 3G High systems and one for 3G Plus systems. Each type has several versions which attempt to do the same thing.

Since you have a 3G Plus system as you've mentioned the HN+ update, I would suggest you use the activator that came with the maps, since you can look at the source file run.sh with Notepad.

Just wait at least 5 minutes after the MMI reboots following the map update [which takes about 90 mins] before inserting the SD with the activator. The MMI screen should say 'Navigation blocked' before you run the activator SD.

Thank you very much for your response, another question I have is if would you recommend to delete old nav database and partition before updating maps? My map database is from 2013, year of the car build

 

[DrGER]

Thank you very much for your response, another question I have is if would you recommend to delete old nav database and partition before updating maps? My map database is from 2013, year of the car build

I do not recommended that anyone delete the old nav database and partition before updating with the SAME region on MMI 3G High or Plus systems under normal conditions. --g

 

[masa77]

I do not recommended that anyone delete the old nav database and partition before updating with the SAME region on MMI 3G High or Plus systems under normal conditions. --g

Done update today, I took about 90 minutes, used activator which came with the maps, so far works good. Another maybe stupid quiestion: activation is done once I suppose and then you will need to remove sd card with activator form sd card slot?