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S5 - KW Coilovers – Variant 2 Initial Review

A few of you will be aware Doubledoom and I had the KW variant 2 coilovers fitted to our S5s by the guys at APS today, the first to have them fitted in the UK apparently. After a 140 mile trip back home here are my initial thoughts:

Although I had the car lowered 25mm with the H&R springs about a month ago, this was always a temporary measure until the KWs were available for the S5. The H&Rs gave the car that much sought after lowered look and even better handling characteristics but there was always the compromise of a harsh ride when compared to stock. For me this was tolerable but as soon as something came available that could offer the same look but with the ride comfort of the stock set up I would have it. Enter the KWs.

First the look. The ride height is adjustable on the V2s and I opted for a 25mm drop at the front and 20mm at the rear to try and give a dropped front appearance and more aggressive look. The initial set up doesn’t look too different from the 25mm drop all round I had with the H&Rs but over time the springs will bed in and any fine adjustments will be more meaningful, so for the next couple of months this is the ride height I’ll keep. Adjustment of ride height just requires the wheels off to enable access. The rebound was left in the default comfort set up. Adjusting this is a little more involved and requires the units to be detached at the top.

An initial test drive around the industrial estate near to APS took me over a few minor pot holes and bumps and these were despatched without any jolts or thuds in the car at all. The H&Rs definitely reminded you they were a stiffer set up when travelling over such surfaces. The real test, however would be the drive home.

A variety of road conditions were encountered including the following: a series of regular thick lines painted across the road on an approach to roundabouts, cats eyes between lanes, railway crossing, minor pot holes and sleeping policemen. Without exception, the drive over all these surfaces at normal driving speeds was smooth and uncompromised and the default comfort setting of the rebound certainly lived up to its description and all my expectations (and hopes).

Although the trip home was blighted with torrential rain from time to time, the handling characteristics of the car were just as good as with the H&Rs ie the car felt as if it was painted to the road. Cornering at speed offered little detectable body roll.

In summary, the KWs offer exactly what I had hoped for. The aggressive lowered look which can be adjusted to suit relatively easily and the comfort of the stock suspension set up. Don’t get me wrong, the H&Rs are a very cost effective means of getting the desired lowering and the compromise to ride comfort isn’t too bad. However the KWs do give the comfort factor back, albeit at a price.

I’m sure Doubledoom will add his own review when he gets chance. Comparing notes following our respective test drives I’m sure he too will have similarly favourable comments.

I’ll give things a few hundred miles to bed in and then update the review. Hopefully we’ll have some better weather between now and then!

Finally, thanks to Ed and the guys at APS for providing first class service once again.

A few images from the day posted below. It wasn't the weather for outside photos so will post some of the car i) If it ever stops raining in the UK and ii) I've got the car clean (again!).


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Suspension part Suspension Auto part Yellow Coil spring
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I'll buy you a beer for a ride in your car when it is done. I want to do something similar, but I am worried about the ride getting too annoying. If you get an AWE exhaust, I might trade you a case of beer for a ride!
How many labor hours to install coilovers?

Hey guys,

For those of you who installed coilovers, how many labor hours were you charged for? Since I'm going to check with a few different shops for installation estimates, I'd like to know ahead of time if the hours estimates they provide me is reasonable or way out of line. Thanks.
While you are comparison shopping, don't forget that some shops like EF1 Motorsports in Long Beach, CA package a post-install alignment job with the install.

-Ray
For those of you who installed coilovers, how many labor hours were you charged for? .
Hi TX, APS 'did me a deal' on fitting so can't quote an exact price. What I can tell you is that it took approx 1.5-2hrs, including 4-wheel alignment, so that should give you a rough guide.
Same as Ess5ive.
Same as Ess for me too. Additionally, I'm not sure the V1s were available for the A/S5 at the time we had ours fitted.
Same again. Although I was offered V1's 4 weeks prior to Manor having his V2's fitted (the first set I knew off). V1's where definatley first on the market but the fear of spending out again (already had H&R springs) and not getting exactly what I wanted was what made me hold out of the V2's. Having now had enough time on the tarmac since the install I cannot see any reason to change the rebound setting and suspect I could have got away with V1's.
Hi TX, APS 'did me a deal' on fitting so can't quote an exact price. What I can tell you is that it took approx 1.5-2hrs, including 4-wheel alignment, so that should give you a rough guide.
I got quotes from 10 different shops and NONE of them quoted me less than 6 hours. The question is, are we talking labor hours or clock hours. The cheapest quote I got was $600 for the install..

TX, I am very interested in what you come up with on this....
What I can tell you is that it took approx 1.5-2hrs, including 4-wheel alignment, so that should give you a rough guide.
Same as Ess5ive.
I got quotes from 10 different shops and NONE of them quoted me less than 6 hours. The question is, are we talking labor hours or clock hours. The cheapest quote I got was $600 for the install.
Wow, I'm very surprised to hear that it took literally only 2 hours to install the entire set of coilovers and do an alignment! :eek: Like sizzle mentioned, I've heard estimates closer to 6 hours.

Ess and doubledoom, just to clarify... so from the time they started working on your car to the time you were able to drive off in it, the time was really only 2 hours? Or did they perhaps just only charge you for 2 hours of labor (as part of a special "deal") when in reality it may have taken longer to do the actual work?
It was much longer than 2 hours on mine and Manor's but that was because we were the first two to have it done. APS wanted to spend more time on those. It took about most of the day but that was with two being done at the same time. I think Ess5ive would have been the 3rd of 4th one by that time so would be a bit quicker. However, the price wasnt changed.
Wow, I'm very surprised to hear that it took literally only 2 hours to install the entire set of coilovers and do an alignment! :eek: Like sizzle mentioned, I've heard estimates closer to 6 hours.

Ess and doubledoom, just to clarify... so from the time they started working on your car to the time you were able to drive off in it, the time was really only 2 hours? Or did they perhaps just only charge you for 2 hours of labor (as part of a special "deal") when in reality it may have taken longer to do the actual work?
I must have been about the 5th installation at APS and it was definatley approximatley 2 and 1/2 hours for full installation, including wheel alignment and road test.
I must have been about the 5th installation at APS and it was definatley approximatley 2 and 1/2 hours for full installation, including wheel alignment and road test.
How many people worked on it? The 2 1/2 hours may be clock hours, but if they had one on the front and one on the back at the same time, then that is 5 labor hours....
I wish the KW hardware wasn't purple and yellow...I'm too vain to drop my matching red/black h&r coilovers for these especially when I know I will never be pushing this car that hard i.e. tracking to warrant a decked out suspension system. Daily cruising + sprints + occasional twisties are most of what I put my 5 through.

How much is the V2 compared to the V1 and V3 anyways fellas?
How much is the V2 compared to the V1 and V3 anyways fellas?
Here are the MSRP's in $USD
10210073 Coilover V1 - 1550.00
15210073 Coilover V2 - 1975.00
35210073 Coilover V3 - 2295.00

Most dealers only make ~10-15% on these unless they are large volume KW dealers, so i wouldn't expect a big discount from anyone.

-Ray
I wish the KW hardware wasn't purple and yellow...I'm too vain to drop my matching red/black h&r coilovers
Yeah, mechanics sure will dig you're matching coils. They're the only ones that will ever see them..:D
How many people worked on it? The 2 1/2 hours may be clock hours, but if they had one on the front and one on the back at the same time, then that is 5 labor hours....
Hi Sizzle, Pretty certain was only one mechanic working on the car.
At a glance, the fronts will be cake, you don't even need a spring compressor. Just jack it up, pull off the wheel, and drop the whole OE coilover assembly and replace it with the new assembly. The rears are a different story, you would need to compress the spring to remove it and then compress the new one to get it on. Shocks are probably stupidly easy though. I'm not a professional mechanic, but I do most of my own work and mods on all of my cars. I can see doing this in less than 2.5 hours, especially with air tools and a lift. Maybe 3-3.5 hours at home in your own garage.

-Ray
Yeah, mechanics sure will dig you're matching coils. They're the only ones that will ever see them..:D
I am the mechanic in most instances and when I wash my cars, I wash the undercarriage and wheel wells etc. :p
Done this mod before on several other cars and it shouldn't take more than 30-40 minutes a corner with the right tools, provided you know the procedure even if you only have a jack and axle stands. First time, add 2x30 minutes for the first front and rear as you work out how it all assembles and the dissassembly/assembly sequence. ergo, I'd say 3 hours DIY

However, caution when DIY fitting new suspension, you MUST go and get it aligned at a professional garage with 4 wheel-alignment kit IMMEDIATELY... and if lowering, the camber will need adjusting.
Hey guys,

Another question for you about the KWs...

So, if I want 25mm front / 20mm rear compared to stock ride height, what does the installer use as a point of reference on the KWs to adjust them to those exact ride heights? I just want to understand this better so that I can explain it to the installer clearly. Thanks.
Hey guys,

Another question for you about the KWs...

So, if I want 25mm front / 20mm rear compared to stock ride height, what does the installer use as a point of reference on the KWs to adjust them to those exact ride heights? I just want to understand this better so that I can explain it to the installer clearly. Thanks.
Not to butt in, but the coils are gonna settle, so I wouldn't try and attempt to get it exactly right at install. I would dial it in to your desired ride height after about 2 weeks or so....
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