[Aff]

Audi have quoted me approx £500 all in. i think it's a bit steep considering the cost of it is £200.

any thoughts?

 

[George]

Audi have quoted me approx £500 all in. i think it's a bit steep considering the cost of it is £200.

any thoughts?

There has been previous discussion on this in another thread (http://www.a5oc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3020&postcount=21).

My dealer offered me the Dension 500 at £400 (incl. VAT & fitting). Important thing is that this is an Audi Approved accessory, which means it wont adversely affect your guarantee/warranty. The Dension allows identical iPod conectivity to AMI, and also USB, etc. There's more details on the Dension website.

 

[Aff]

thanks george, i had a look and it may be a silly question but can you watch video footage on your screen if outputting from ipod/mp4 player to the dension?

 

[George]

thanks george, i had a look and it may be a silly question but can you watch video footage on your screen if outputting from ipod/mp4 player to the dension?

Thanks Aff. Looking at the Dension info (http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway500.php), it does imply video connection, but don't know if this applies to the Audi installation. Maybe talking to your dealer or Dension (for UK this is Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd - [email protected] - Tel.: 0871 871 9747) specifically about the A5 will get a response. If the Audi guys from Bickley Audi read this, maybe they can respond?

 

[MeteorSilver]

Following from George's last comment... It sounds like the dealers are all over the place on AMI. The guys at Hatfield Audi tried and failed twice to install an iPod link. After checking with Audi Technical they told me that it is not possible to retro fit an AMI.

I'm going to find out more from Dension. My B&O upgrade isn't working hard enough!

 

[birty]

Just bought 3.0TDi demo 2k has sat nav and B&O sound so asked dealear about retro fitting ipod connection. They said not possible due to optical wiring loom! Is this BS? Any one had one fitted? Does Denison option work

Also got same response about retro fitting bluetooth but fortunately found it already in (although dealer didn't think so!)

 

[Aff]

i'm still aghast at the cost to retrofit. now if it doesn't work that will just be rubbish. should have done it when speccing, but dealer said it can be retrofitted. at that point for some reason i forgot that it actually costs alot to get fitted after

 

[[email protected]]

Having just finished the Audi Technology course, I can tell you that the AMI / MMI systems do use Fibreoptic cables. This makes retro fit phenomenally expensive.

I would imagine any dealer who quotes for retro AMI is actually quoting for the Dennison system. Price on this is actually £269 inc. VAT but PLUS FITTING, which is around 90 mins labour time.

This unit gives full i-tunes interface, like the AMI does, and you don't need an extra cable by the looks of it.

 

[birty]

If you have 6 CD changer fitted Ipod might not be nessecary just make cd's with mp3 files and you'll easily have 1000 songs to access and more reliable

 

[FrostBYTE]

Final price was....

Went back and forth on this but took my 2008 AMI in for the IPOD retrofit this morning. I told them not to do anything until they called with a final price. Ladies and gentlemen...

$773.00 - Hardware
$ 64.95 - Ipod cord
$420.00 - Labor

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Grand todal to use my ipod in a 2008 A5 - $1257.95

It's not happenning but thought you'd all get a laugh out if it.

 

[TwoFish]

This one is stil bugging me too as I also have an '08 A5 and have yet to find any sensible way of connecting my ipod. Can anyone comment on what CD changer connection the Concert head unit has? In particular, does having a CD changer require the fibre optic (MOST?) setup that SatNav / AMI seemed to require, or is there still the possibility to use one of the cheaper interfaces that allows you to control an ipod by 'pretending' it's a CD changer? This would presumably be a lot less functional than AMI, but a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

[tonye60]

i had ami fitted in my A6 for £400, same as mmi in a A5, guy in manchester did it, genuine audi kit too.

 

[morski]

Erm... it can be fitted even if you have the MOST system fittem in the car. The fibre optics are looped in and then back out of the newly fitted ami unit. Some other cables need to be fitted too but nothing major. I think the glovebox has to be replaced hanece the increased costs.
However:
The is a company that allows you to fit a control unit behind the glovebox. Links into the MMI controls and allows you to connect any sort of MP3 player/hard drive/usb drive/ IPOD etc with full track display on the screen. You can also connect a dvd player/ Playstation/ ipod video/xbox/in car pc etc to the unit. The sound is outputted via the aux in on your car or if you have MOST system in your car then you buy an additional unit and connect it throught the fibre optics thus enabling the B&O to work with the system. Truly awesome i think.

 

[tonye60]

you dont need a new glovebox, it took the guy about an hour at the most, if you want his details , just ask

 

[wonderstoat]

This only works if you have high MMI

Guys

I'm confused somewhat by these posts. I assume this only works if you have high-MMI - that is the sat nav package.

I have an '08 with the low-MMI concert-radio set-up. You can tell if you have low MMI as the start up screen says "Audi Infotainment System" when it starts. This system doesn't use MOST, but CAN. (or maybe it's the other way round?, whichever it's the WRONG one!)

I've been in touch repeatedly with an audio specialist since I got my car a year ago. The Dension would not work with my stereo because Audi have used the CD changer circuitry for the SD card. i.e, the normal way you would use a Dension (fool the stereo into thinking the ipod is the CD changer) is just not an option. We tried fitting it last week. I'm now resigned to the fact that my £32k car will never have ipod integration.

Unless there's anyone out there with low-MMI. Concert radio who has found a way for this to work?

PS - even if '08 models had aux-in, at least that would be something!:music-smiley-019:

Thanks
Stoatie.

 

[TwoFish]

The Dension would not work with my stereo because Audi have used the CD changer circuitry for the SD card. i.e, the normal way you would use a Dension (fool the stereo into thinking the ipod is the CD changer) is just not an option. We tried fitting it last week. I'm now resigned to the fact that my £32k car will never have ipod integration.

Ah, thanks Stoatie. I'm in the same camp and was considering experimenting with the Denison styley CD chnager trick. You've save me from wasting time and money. It remains a source of real annoyance that Audi have crapped up on this one, leaving us having to pay thousands of pounds just to connect an ipod - somehing that's now generally standard on even the most basic little hatchbacks.

 

[morski]

Guys

I'm confused somewhat by these posts. I assume this only works if you have high-MMI - that is the sat nav package.

I have an '08 with the low-MMI concert-radio set-up. You can tell if you have low MMI as the start up screen says "Audi Infotainment System" when it starts. This system doesn't use MOST, but CAN. (or maybe it's the other way round?, whichever it's the WRONG one!)

I've been in touch repeatedly with an audio specialist since I got my car a year ago. The Dension would not work with my stereo because Audi have used the CD changer circuitry for the SD card. i.e, the normal way you would use a Dension (fool the stereo into thinking the ipod is the CD changer) is just not an option. We tried fitting it last week. I'm now resigned to the fact that my £32k car will never have ipod integration.

Unless there's anyone out there with low-MMI. Concert radio who has found a way for this to work?

PS - even if '08 models had aux-in, at least that would be something!:music-smiley-019:

Thanks
Stoatie.

Not having digested the whole thread; have you spoken to your dealer about the fitment of a glovebox AMI unit that doesnt use MOST?

 

[loc]

Here is the explanation about "MMI low" aka Concert/Chorus/Symphony Radio aka Audi Information System which ships in A5/S5s without satnav. It is not real MMI! It is different, see here:

Will the real MMI please stand up? Difference between standard radio Concert/Symphony and the optional DVD navigation's MMI controls in B8 platform Audi A4 and A5
http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/articles/a4a5realmmi.html

Retrofitting MMI/satnav is possible but a heck of a lot work, see here:

Notes on retrofitting MMI High (Audi A6/A4 B8/A5/Q7)
http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/articles/mmihighenglish.html

As for retrofitting AMI, notes and part numbers and links here, note that AMI is different depending on if you have MMI/satnav or not. AMI MOST for MMI, AMI CAN for the radios. If you don't have MMI/satnav, AMI CAN for the radios is compatible with radios starting model year 2009, that is build week 22/2008 onwards. Car build before that, you need a new radio.

AMI (Audi Music Interface) part numbers / Notes on retrofitting AMI (A4/A5/A6)
http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/articles/a4a5amiparts.html

Related thread cocerning updating the radio for AMI CAN:

Part # Request: Audi Symphony III radio
http://www.a5oc.com/forums/showthread.php/part-request-audi-7074/index.html

AMI does not allow you to watch video. If you have 2G MMI/satnav (prior to build Nov/2008), you need to retrofit some third party solution that hijacks the MMI screen or factory TV which containcs aux-in for video to watch video (you will need full MMI/satnav in A5 to retrofit factory TV). Instructions here:

Hybrid TV module installation Audi A6/A4 B8/A5 (relevant for Q7/A8 too)
http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/articles/a6a4a5hybridtv.html

Notes on retrofitting TV module Audi A6/Q7/A8 (goes for A5 too)
http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/articles/a6tvmodule.html

As always, this and a lot more retrofit stuff for Audis here:

http://www.geocities.com/a6retrofit/

Audi ships MMI 3G with the A5/S5 now, starting late 2008. Things are different for that, so these instructions apply to MMI 2G and the current Concert/Chorus/Symphony radios only, although in principle MMI 3G is a lot like MMI 2G.

 

[wonderstoat]

If you don't have MMI/satnav, AMI CAN for the radios is compatible with radios starting model year 2009, that is build week 22/2008 onwards. Car build before that, you need a new radio.

Thanks ... this is consistent with what I've been told. Just out of interest, if anyone could help me answer these questions I'd be very grateful - if I were to obtain a 2009 Concert head unit:

1) would it just plug into the existing space in my 2008 low-mmi car?
2) would that include/facilitate an aux-in retro-fit?
3) is it possible to to retrofit an aux-in for my 2008 Concert unit?
4) where could I obtain a 2009 Concert, and how much do you think it would run me?
5) is anything on this page (at the bottom) likely to work? They don't seem to differentiate between 08/09 Concerts.

I can't believe this has been such a trial!! Talk about punishing early adopters! If I had waited a little longer I'd have a 2.0TFSi instead of a 1.8 AND my ipod would work!!! :wall:

 

[TwoFish]

Intesresting find Stoatie, though it does look too good to be true.

At the risk of more "telling us what we've already been told" (i.e. that we're stuffed), a bit of Googling also turned up this guide.