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It's the same old story. Please see this post ( and many others)
http://www.a5oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1511
http://www.a5oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1511
Clutch Issue
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Yes, it seems that the problem is in the pedal ... but ... as it is hydraulic , the problem can not be in the pedal ... (i think)
Maybe it will fix itself in time. That would be good news
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Clutch Issues...
Me Again... I havent' been on the site in a while, but just caught up...
The Clutch feeling that I was referring to, and was corrected with the complete clutch transplant that my dealer did, was noticable with out driving the car... Press the pedal and it feels "gritty" as I had said, as though there were sand in the mechanism... (Ever open an old screen door, or spring-loaded bathroom door at a bar that would "creek" while it was being opened??? That is kinda how the pedal felt. Releasing the pedal was kinda the same, however WHEN DRIVING THE CAR, the "creeks" would actually cause the pedal to "hang" for a split second, and then "snap" to the next "stuck spot" until it was fully released. This made for jerky disengaging of the clutch, and it impossible to shift smoothly.
I HAVE A NEW PROBLEM!!!!
My new clutch is slipping!
It happened a few times - I would shift as normal, suddenly finding myself over-revving with my foot nearly off the pedal.
It has happened 3 or 4 times... I thought maybe my foot was actually still slightly on the pedal... I've changed my seating position, thinking maybe they were all just "bad shifts" and I needed to me further from the pedals... or that I just wasn't in the right mindset those days.
But it happened again just the other day... I was exiting the highway...
I was in 4th gear at the top of the ramp and didn't have enough power to accelerate onto the street from the off-ramp.
I downshifted to 3rd... Applied some gas and slowly released the clutch....
Next thing I know, my RPMs were heading toward 5,000 and my foot was nearly off the clutch - I THEN COMPLETELY REMOVED MY FOOT from the pedal... wasn't even touching it.... the car was still revving at 5K and very slowly accelerating... I came off the gas, slowed the engine down and made it home. -I am pretty sure that is not supposed to happen.
$60,000 for a car and it is going back to the dealer again for a major checkup.
I have an appointment at the dealer - thursday.
Anyone else experiencing something similar?
Thanks, J
Me Again... I havent' been on the site in a while, but just caught up...
The Clutch feeling that I was referring to, and was corrected with the complete clutch transplant that my dealer did, was noticable with out driving the car... Press the pedal and it feels "gritty" as I had said, as though there were sand in the mechanism... (Ever open an old screen door, or spring-loaded bathroom door at a bar that would "creek" while it was being opened??? That is kinda how the pedal felt. Releasing the pedal was kinda the same, however WHEN DRIVING THE CAR, the "creeks" would actually cause the pedal to "hang" for a split second, and then "snap" to the next "stuck spot" until it was fully released. This made for jerky disengaging of the clutch, and it impossible to shift smoothly.
I HAVE A NEW PROBLEM!!!!
My new clutch is slipping!
It happened a few times - I would shift as normal, suddenly finding myself over-revving with my foot nearly off the pedal.
It has happened 3 or 4 times... I thought maybe my foot was actually still slightly on the pedal... I've changed my seating position, thinking maybe they were all just "bad shifts" and I needed to me further from the pedals... or that I just wasn't in the right mindset those days.
But it happened again just the other day... I was exiting the highway...
I was in 4th gear at the top of the ramp and didn't have enough power to accelerate onto the street from the off-ramp.
I downshifted to 3rd... Applied some gas and slowly released the clutch....
Next thing I know, my RPMs were heading toward 5,000 and my foot was nearly off the clutch - I THEN COMPLETELY REMOVED MY FOOT from the pedal... wasn't even touching it.... the car was still revving at 5K and very slowly accelerating... I came off the gas, slowed the engine down and made it home. -I am pretty sure that is not supposed to happen.
$60,000 for a car and it is going back to the dealer again for a major checkup.
I have an appointment at the dealer - thursday.
Anyone else experiencing something similar?
Thanks, J
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that happens all the time for me leaving a very steep upwards off ramp (starting out on 1st gear), when there r a bunch of cars behind i tend to rev up higher but then the revs climb to 5k and holds there, kinda stays stuck there even when i have 90% released the clutch . . .
it feels there's some sort of 'safety mode' the car goes into regarding the rev limiter taking over, which is cutting power to the wheels. cos when i try the first gear take-off at lower revs at the same spot the car drives fine, with lots of power. . .
it feels there's some sort of 'safety mode' the car goes into regarding the rev limiter taking over, which is cutting power to the wheels. cos when i try the first gear take-off at lower revs at the same spot the car drives fine, with lots of power. . .
I know I am a little behind the times to bring this post back up, but I just dropped off my S5 at Circle Audi in Long Beach for the "grinding" issue. Got the call this afternoon that they need to escalate outside of U.S. Engineering Team and that they will likely have to bring down the transmission but they want to confer with another team first. In the meantime, I am stuck in an S-Line A4 missing my car.
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Back at Service - Clutch again!
Hey all, I just wrote this detailed message and then lost my internet connection while submitting - I dont have the patience to write it all again.
Here's the "abridged" version....
Puff: Not that you mention it - I was on an incline 3 of the times that I remember. But I do not believe that the issue is something that is supposed to happen. The dealer seemed clueless about it - I let the mechanic take my car home so he could see if it would happen. It did not. - They found nothign wrong with my car.
The real reason I am writing tonight is that my "gritty clutch pedal" problem is BACK! I brought it to the dealer a week ago and I am still awaiting word... I have gotten bi-daily updates including:
The software has been upgraded...
A specialist is coming to look at the car...
The transmission is out of the car...
The mechanic foreman that I spoke to when I dropped off the car told me that be believes that Audi has come out with a new "bearing" and "sleeve" and that although my clutch was replaced back in June, that may have been before Audi came out with the new parts and that my bad parts may have been replaced with more bad parts.
In any case I told him about the slipping clutch thing as well and he suggested that the two problems could be related.
I picked my car up at the end of May... it spent the month of June in the shop... It has now been another week so far...I only have 2300 miles on the thing! When I came up with my username (Waiting4mys5) it was because I was waiting months for delivery... now it seems that I just wait for the repairs to be done.
(ok, maybe not that abridged)
J
Hey all, I just wrote this detailed message and then lost my internet connection while submitting - I dont have the patience to write it all again.
Here's the "abridged" version....
Puff: Not that you mention it - I was on an incline 3 of the times that I remember. But I do not believe that the issue is something that is supposed to happen. The dealer seemed clueless about it - I let the mechanic take my car home so he could see if it would happen. It did not. - They found nothign wrong with my car.
The real reason I am writing tonight is that my "gritty clutch pedal" problem is BACK! I brought it to the dealer a week ago and I am still awaiting word... I have gotten bi-daily updates including:
The software has been upgraded...
A specialist is coming to look at the car...
The transmission is out of the car...
The mechanic foreman that I spoke to when I dropped off the car told me that be believes that Audi has come out with a new "bearing" and "sleeve" and that although my clutch was replaced back in June, that may have been before Audi came out with the new parts and that my bad parts may have been replaced with more bad parts.
In any case I told him about the slipping clutch thing as well and he suggested that the two problems could be related.
I picked my car up at the end of May... it spent the month of June in the shop... It has now been another week so far...I only have 2300 miles on the thing! When I came up with my username (Waiting4mys5) it was because I was waiting months for delivery... now it seems that I just wait for the repairs to be done.
(ok, maybe not that abridged)
J
I just heard back from my service advisor stating that everything with the clutch is fine because there is a certain amount of vibration and feeling in the clutch that is "acceptable", especially at higher RPM's. He stated that the noise (which I didn't bring up) with the clutch pedal and clutch operation were normal function and that there were no repairs recommended by Audi at this time.
I want to be optimistic, but what everybody has described is exactly what I am experiencing. Is there some sort of bulletin or recall notice that others can point me to so I can substantiate what I am experiencing? Should I try taking it to a different dealer? Thanks for your help.
I want to be optimistic, but what everybody has described is exactly what I am experiencing. Is there some sort of bulletin or recall notice that others can point me to so I can substantiate what I am experiencing? Should I try taking it to a different dealer? Thanks for your help.
Hi DMD,
I checked and have not seen a TSB on this clutch issue. Audi are being remarkably quiet about this.
I have this rumble and vibration feeling under my foot and suspect that it is the clutch release bearing. Unlike other members, my pedal is smooth in/out - no stickiness, but nevertheless not right.
As for your Dealer's response this is probably going to be typical - they will have you believe that a bit of vibration is "normal" and not to worry about it. This is because Audi really don't want a major recall on their hands - they would rather only deal with clutch problems that make the car un-driveable, and hope that the other faults will be tolerated by the other owners.
Anyway, its worth making sure that each visit is recorded by the dealer in their log.
Sounds like I am being pessimistic, but I been round the block on these types of issues before.
Well, good luck......
I checked and have not seen a TSB on this clutch issue. Audi are being remarkably quiet about this.
I have this rumble and vibration feeling under my foot and suspect that it is the clutch release bearing. Unlike other members, my pedal is smooth in/out - no stickiness, but nevertheless not right.
As for your Dealer's response this is probably going to be typical - they will have you believe that a bit of vibration is "normal" and not to worry about it. This is because Audi really don't want a major recall on their hands - they would rather only deal with clutch problems that make the car un-driveable, and hope that the other faults will be tolerated by the other owners.
Anyway, its worth making sure that each visit is recorded by the dealer in their log.
Sounds like I am being pessimistic, but I been round the block on these types of issues before.
Well, good luck......
I am not in an S5... but have noticed something after the last service/recall actions...
there was a faint but audible clicking noise as i released the clutch before the service/recalls... but now there isn't and the clutch does seem a little lighter
Also the fact that it took a day and a half to do a service, software updates and check a faulty advanced key seems a bit of a long time
could the clutch thing be something Audi is aware about and is fixing/sorting as cars come in ?
there was a faint but audible clicking noise as i released the clutch before the service/recalls... but now there isn't and the clutch does seem a little lighter
Also the fact that it took a day and a half to do a service, software updates and check a faulty advanced key seems a bit of a long time
could the clutch thing be something Audi is aware about and is fixing/sorting as cars come in ?
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The sticky feeling in my car starts, also, after it has warmed up - feels perfect for a few minutes, and then the grittiness starts when you press the pedal...Then the pedal begins to become noticeably sticky on release - so much so that is is nearly impossible to shift smoothly at slow to moderate speeds... There is NOTHING NORMAL about this!
My guess (and the mechanic at my dealer agreed) that the problem happens once the car warms up because the materials probably begin to expand a bit from the heat.
In any case - it is Day 24 and my car is still at service. On the day before Thanksgiving, I was told that the transmission was out of my car and that the parts had not arrived, yet.
So I am still waiting.
J
My guess (and the mechanic at my dealer agreed) that the problem happens once the car warms up because the materials probably begin to expand a bit from the heat.
In any case - it is Day 24 and my car is still at service. On the day before Thanksgiving, I was told that the transmission was out of my car and that the parts had not arrived, yet.
So I am still waiting.
J
Mine is doing exactly what SDS5 described...
Whenever I shift >5,000, I can hear a brief sort of high-pitched "whine (almost sounds like I left my foot on the gas pedal for a split second after I stepped on the clutch) and I can feel a faint high-pitched vibration in the clutch pedal. The clutch doesn't feel gritty or sticky or sandy like others have described. But I feel like it's doing exactly what SDS5 described when shifting at high RPMs. What has been the result of others that have had this specific problem? Is it related to the throwout bearing others have describes as having the stick/sandy feeling?
Update:
I took it to the dealer yesterday and took a drive with a mechanic. He told me the sound/vibration is normal. He said I'm probably not used to it (vs. my prior 2006 S4) because the new Audi's have chain-driven cams, whereas a few years ago they used belts.
I made them let me drive a brand new S5 to see if it felt the same as mine. It does, although a little less pronounced, but the mechanic said thats because the car needs to loosen up a bit.
I took it to the dealer yesterday and took a drive with a mechanic. He told me the sound/vibration is normal. He said I'm probably not used to it (vs. my prior 2006 S4) because the new Audi's have chain-driven cams, whereas a few years ago they used belts.
I made them let me drive a brand new S5 to see if it felt the same as mine. It does, although a little less pronounced, but the mechanic said thats because the car needs to loosen up a bit.
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