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I'm not loving my S5 at present. Not only has it developed an annoying rattle/clonking from the exhaust (to be investigated and no doubt remedied by APS next Weds - if it doesn't fall apart by then cos it's really, really loud and persistent and steadily getting worse) which my local Audi dealer diagnosed (at a cost of £70 - thank you vey much!) as the one of the Milltek baffles banging on the rear transmission housing - but leaving the office tonight, I had a whole new set of issues.

Reversing out of my parking space and then selecting first, I subconciously noticed that the gearchange graunched somewhat (more than usual - my gearchange has always been more notchy than Spinner's, whose car I drove a couple of weeks ago and whose change is like driving a hot thing through an easily melty thing).

At first didn't register with me, then I went for second and could barely select it. Same with third, fourth.....you get the picture.

Drove to the pub (20 miles or so) with the problem seemingly getting worse - had to force changes, even when double de-clutching. Parked nose-first up a slope, mindful that reverse was likely to be even more of an issue. As it was - I tried it once parked and couldn't select it. Tried other gears and required huge effort (to the sound of much mechanical 'noise') to get any gears. So left it and went in to be laughed at about how I drive a £45K car that's basically falling to pieces. Muse about what the cause may be and got lots of 'clutching at straws...'-type jokes. Ha ha. Phoned local Audi dealer, receptionist took a msg and promised someone would call me - they never did. Teutonic pricks.

Couple of shandies (about 90 mins) later, left the pub and miraculously, slotted straight into reverse and then first. Second then threw up a familiar challenge, as did third, and then on the journey home, a familiar pattern, although curiously, seemed marginally better. Still one sick car though....

Spent the journey thinking about how/where I could park without having to select reverse but when I got towards my drive, risked rolling-up onto the adjacent driveway (from which I could roll back if required) and tried reverse again. Went in, although not happily and I got the car rear-first onto the driveway.

So - any ideas? No evidence of fluid under the car, every gear seems affected, clutch pedal pressure seems relatively normal (and no symptoms evident when depressing).

This week, I am mostly hating Audis.....:mad:

(PS, just under 14K miles, one careful owner, etc....)
 

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I'm surprised you continued to drive it with the gearbox issue. I think I would probably have called audi assistance.

Obviously it'll be covered under warranty anyway. Just hope you receive a good enough service. At my local audi dealership, you could be waiting weeks for a courtesy car.
 

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I'm surprised you continued to drive it with the gearbox issue. I think I would probably have called audi assistance.

Obviously it'll be covered under warranty anyway. Just hope you receive a good enough service. At my local audi dealership, you could be waiting weeks for a courtesy car.
I guess it's the difference between getting home at your chosen time (albeit nursing a sick car) or sitting waiting for the AA for two hours before being delivered home in the cab of a transit. Minus a car which Audi may or may not deign to look at at some point the following day.

As it was/is driveable, I took the former choice. Now in two minds whether to drive to work as normal tomorrow, or head for Audi and hang about until they can see it. To your point Rab, they won't have a car so at best it will be drop it off and walk home (luckily only ten mins).
 

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Update

Risked driving the car in this morning - first slotted in without much noticeable effort on the driveway and on the journey to work, although there was a substantial amount of notchiness on all changes, no dramatic problems like last night.......

Strange.

Managed to get reverse in the office car park, again without too much drama - and stuck it nose-out in a bay just in case. I'll get on the phone to Audi first thing and get it checked in as early as poss next week - but scratching my head to understand what could cause an intermittent problem such as this?
 

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Ess... you have my view from the conversation on the dog 'n bone, however, it'd be worth getting Ed's (APS) opinion. These guys have seen everything and could probably diagnose it over the phone in an instance. That would give you something to guide those idiots at your Stealership with!
 

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I guess it's the difference between getting home at your chosen time (albeit nursing a sick car) or sitting waiting for the AA for two hours before being delivered home in the cab of a transit. Minus a car which Audi may or may not deign to look at at some point the following day.

As it was/is driveable, I took the former choice. Now in two minds whether to drive to work as normal tomorrow, or head for Audi and hang about until they can see it. To your point Rab, they won't have a car so at best it will be drop it off and walk home (luckily only ten mins).
Well, I do hope audi don't turn the blame on you for continuing to drive the car.

Also, i'm not sure if it's the AA which audi assistance use, but the AA will give you a courtesy car for 48 hours if your car cannot be repaired.
 

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I have always tried to call Audi Roadside and let them deal with the dealership as they are working for AUDI UK and tend to be more helpful and knowledgeable. If they cannot fix your car THEY will arrange for a loaner from AUDI although that may be a hire car if none available locally. In my experience they have always been excellent. After hours I think Audi Assistance use the RAC.
 

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I've got the exact same failure 6 months ago: throw out bearing dead. There was a bad batch of S5 with this issue. They will have to pull out the transmission to replace it....good thing is the car has been running perfectly since! So not worry too much.
 

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Update

Car spent the day at the dealer today and guess what? Yes, NFF.

Embarrassing when the service receptionist looks at you pityingly and tells you that both their Master Tec and their 'S5 specialist' (they have those?) has spent the day driving the car off and on, and that they can find nothing wrong with it.

Yes. There's nothing wrong with it. Now. Granted. I kind of worked that out. BUT THERE WAS AND, I WAS HOPING THAT YOU, WITH ALL YOUR VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIKAL GUBBINS COULD TELL ME WHY A CAR WOULD SUDDENLY, RANDOMY, BECOME A FLAT-BED CASE - AND THEN RECOVER ITSELF OVERNIGHT!
 

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Car spent the day at the dealer today and guess what? Yes, NFF.

Embarrassing when the service receptionist looks at you pityingly and tells you that both their Master Tec and their 'S5 specialist' (they have those?) has spent the day driving the car off and on, and that they can find nothing wrong with it.

Yes. There's nothing wrong with it. Now. Granted. I kind of worked that out. BUT THERE WAS AND, I WAS HOPING THAT YOU, WITH ALL YOUR VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIKAL GUBBINS COULD TELL ME WHY A CAR WOULD SUDDENLY, RANDOMY, BECOME A FLAT-BED CASE - AND THEN RECOVER ITSELF OVERNIGHT!
Next time it happens, just stop the car and call Audi road side, that way someone can verify something is up at that point in time, then the garage will have to sort it.
 

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Next time it happens...
Huh, cheers SAJ. Nothing like tempting fate. But you're right and I'd already vowed to do same. But then again, the car actually 'healed' iteself overnight on my driveway and I'm sure the Technik Elves could do their magic in the dealer's pound as well before anyone got to look at it....

Cue more pitying looks :mad:
 

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Car spent the day at the dealer today and guess what? Yes, NFF.

Embarrassing when the service receptionist looks at you pityingly and tells you that both their Master Tec and their 'S5 specialist' (they have those?) has spent the day driving the car off and on, and that they can find nothing wrong with it.

Yes. There's nothing wrong with it. Now. Granted. I kind of worked that out. BUT THERE WAS AND, I WAS HOPING THAT YOU, WITH ALL YOUR VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIKAL GUBBINS COULD TELL ME WHY A CAR WOULD SUDDENLY, RANDOMY, BECOME A FLAT-BED CASE - AND THEN RECOVER ITSELF OVERNIGHT!
It's sooooo frustrating when that happens. It ALWAYS happens to me, the car always fixes itself on the way back to the dealership, strangely.
 

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Slipping Clutch on my S5

Hey all, only a few months ago (June - 2 weeks after I got my S5) my Audi spend a month at service awaiting new throw-out bearings as my car came from the factory with a defect causing a "gritty" feeling in the clutch pedel and eventually a pedal that would get "stuck" on the way up, making smooth shifting nearly impossible.

Here I am, in September, with only 1900+ miles on my S5 (I dont use the S5 as my everyday driver) my clutch is SLIPPING!!!

I noticed it a couple of times before - I would shift as normal, suddenly finding myself over-revving with my foot nearly off the pedal.

It has happened 3 or 4 times... I thought maybe my foot was actually still slightly on the pedal... I've changed my seating position, thinking maybe they were all just "bad shifts" - human error - my head just wasn't in the game....

But it happened again, the day before yesterday, I was exiting the highway...
I was in 4th gear at the top of the ramp and didn't have enouhg power to accelerate from the yield sign... I downshifted to 3rd... Applied some gas and slowly released the clutch....

My RPMS gradually went up to about 5,000 or so and my foot was nearly off the clutch - I COMPLETELY REMOVED MY FOOT from the pedal... wasn't even touching it.... the car was still revving at 5K and very slowly accelerating... I came off the gas, slowed the engine down and made it home. -I am no engineer, but I am pretty sure that is not supposed to happen.

I AM NOT HAPPY!!! $60,000 for a car still having major clutch issues.

I have an appointment at the dealer - can't wait.

Anyone else experience something similar?

Thanks, J
 

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Hey all, only a few months ago (June - 2 weeks after I got my S5) my Audi spend a month at service awaiting new throw-out bearings as my car came from the factory with a defect causing a "gritty" feeling in the clutch pedel and eventually a pedal that would get "stuck" on the way up, making smooth shifting nearly impossible.

Here I am, in September, with only 1900+ miles on my S5 (I dont use the S5 as my everyday driver) my clutch is SLIPPING!!!

I noticed it a couple of times before - I would shift as normal, suddenly finding myself over-revving with my foot nearly off the pedal.

It has happened 3 or 4 times... I thought maybe my foot was actually still slightly on the pedal... I've changed my seating position, thinking maybe they were all just "bad shifts" - human error - my head just wasn't in the game....

But it happened again, the day before yesterday, I was exiting the highway...
I was in 4th gear at the top of the ramp and didn't have enouhg power to accelerate from the yield sign... I downshifted to 3rd... Applied some gas and slowly released the clutch....

My RPMS gradually went up to about 5,000 or so and my foot was nearly off the clutch - I COMPLETELY REMOVED MY FOOT from the pedal... wasn't even touching it.... the car was still revving at 5K and very slowly accelerating... I came off the gas, slowed the engine down and made it home. -I am no engineer, but I am pretty sure that is not supposed to happen.

I AM NOT HAPPY!!! $60,000 for a car still having major clutch issues.

I have an appointment at the dealer - can't wait.

Anyone else experience something similar?

Thanks, J
Hmmm... without being rude, I think your clutch driving may need some attention. Although you may possibly have a clutch problem, you have to realise that at 5k revs if you're slipping the clutch (i.e releasing slowly) whilst moving in 4th/3rd it is unlikely the clutch (in any car) will not slip. It sounds like you have 'slipped' it too much and it is overly hot and will behave like you say. If you've been using the clutch like this consistently, then you may have caused it to deteriorate more rapidly or to glaze. It does sound from your description like you are 'burning-up' the clutch. The downshift you described should have been clutch in, a touch of throttle to raise the revs for 3rd and clutch straight out (all the way), back on the power no more that half a second.

If you get into the habit of getting off the clutch as quickly as possible when moving and not 'slipping' the clutch for more than a few seconds (and always below 2,500) revs as you hold it on a hill or pull away from a stop your clutch will work as designed and should last more than 50,000 miles.
 

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just a note guys (UK): if you ever have a breakdown just simply call audi assistance. if the car is not drivable or will cause further damage then you will get a hire car immediately
 

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Thanks Vin but as noted, if one's trying to get home and the can move, albeit with some difficulty in making it do so, the natural instinct when faced with an optional roadside wait of up to 2 hours in rush hour is to stick with it and get the car home.

Which is what I did. I kind of regret it but then again had I called Assistance, the car would have been delivered to the dealer late that evening, after hours, and as I mentioned, the problem had dramatically lessened in the morning which would have been their experience of it.

I've resolved that should it happen again, and I'm not in a rush to be somewhere, I will park it up and call to get it taken in so the useless f*ckers will finally have something to react to.

Incidentally, took it into APS yesterday on an unrelated matter and when driving the car into the bay, and completely unsolicited, they commented on the bad clutch judder and poor feel to the change. Yet barely more than 12 hours earlier, Audi's finest had told me that they could find nothing wrong with the transmission.

I'm preparing a well-judged rocket into the dealer - which will likely herald said S5 dumped on forecourt for suitable replacement car, kept safely in my possession until the thing is finally sorted.

I'm so distinctly unimpressed with Audi aftercare. It all seems to be a veneer of nice showrooms, free cappucino and Bang & Olufsen TVs displaying Audi channel and much talk of 'Master Technicians' and 'S5 Specialists', cloaking a company that treats its customers as idiots and shys away from any responsibility for their cars.
 

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I'm so distinctly unimpressed with Audi aftercare. It all seems to be a veneer of nice showrooms, free cappucino and Bang & Olufsen TVs displaying Audi channel and much talk of 'Master Technicians' and 'S5 Specialists', cloaking a company that treats its customers as idiots and shys away from any responsibility for their cars.
Count yourself lucky, we have to pay for our cappucino up here at Glasgow Audi :)

Seriously though, If they're denying there's a problem with the car, when clearly there is, I'd be telling them to expect a lawyer's letter. That's how much I hate dealer aftercare. Worst aftercare experience Ive had was with Alfa Romeo, which has resulted in me having zero tolerance for these idiots.
 

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Worst aftercare experience Ive had was with Alfa Romeo, which has resulted in me having zero tolerance for these idiots.
Funnily enough, the best aftercare I've ever received has been with Alfa - they simply couldn't do enough to please. Could be something to do with the long relationship (30 years!) I had wih the dealer but they always went the extra mile, even to the extent of pushing through a warrantly claim for new front Brembo callipers - because the lacquer was flaking off - after 2.5 years and 35K miles!

Guess it just goes to show how we shouldn't really tar all dealers with the same brush - guess there's good and bad, for every marque. As a starting point, think I'll tell my local dealer that if they're not interested in acknowledging/addressing the problem, I'll first take it to another dealer for their opinion. Southampton Audi supplied the Missus's TT and from what I saw, they have an entirely different approach to customer care from the Colbornes bunch - might give them a try......
 
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