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You don't need the gateway, your 2G gateway is fine.
I thought for 2g to 3g+ the gateway was required for the changes in functionality? I had the old gateway on my 2g and had to upgrade to a later model when i changed to 3g+.

My gateway was from 2011, new one was from a 2014 car.

Another question...sorry haha. Is the 3G High harness the same as the 3G+ one?
You also don't need a full replacement loom, I'll dig up my pictures of what was done one mine, basically the 2g loom had two retrofit ends fitted to it, one at the front to convert 2g cables into 3g ends for the gateway, screen and controller. the other end was to convert the radio etc into the same style of the 3g radio and amp.

Meant i didn't have to rip out the MOST cables for the car, and was significantly cheaper to do than a full wiring loom replacement (around 100GBP, if you source parts yourself)

Apparently there is a guy in Poland who can do it remotely. He has you buy a cable and plug in with a computer to some wifi. I can't for the life of me remember his name. I tried digging through the forums to find it but had no luck. Otherwise, yes the dealer is another option. I have heard from other guys that it only cost them $175 or so to do it. So I guess its hit or miss. I'll let you know once I am at that point!
Hi name is Jack Kirry - he charges 80Euro to remove CP on a 3G retrofit (that includes radio, 5F unit and for me gateway)
 

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You also don't need a full replacement loom, I'll dig up my pictures of what was done one mine, basically the 2g loom had two retrofit ends fitted to it, one at the front to convert 2g cables into 3g ends for the gateway, screen and controller. the other end was to convert the radio etc into the same style of the 3g radio and amp.

Meant i didn't have to rip out the MOST cables for the car, and was significantly cheaper to do than a full wiring loom replacement (around 100GBP, if you source parts yourself)
Sweet thanks! But is the 3g loom the same for both 3Gh and 3G+. Just trying to figure what parts I need to source.
 

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Did the upgrade from Concert to 3G basic. Had to take half the car apart, replace the rear wire loom and create a MOST network. Parts from the top of my head:

  1. MMI unit
  2. MMI screen, cable and facia
  3. center console control unit
  4. radiobox and holder
  5. wire loom
  6. gateway
I assisted in the installation and it took us (myself and a very experienced specialist) 11 hours straight in labour. Afterwards had to upgrade the firmware of the climate control unit and remove the component protection. Took about 1.5 month to source the parts from several suppliers and total cost was approx. EUR 1.000,-.
 

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Did the upgrade from Concert to 3G basic. Had to take half the car apart, replace the rear wire loom and create a MOST network. Parts from the top of my head:

  1. MMI unit
  2. MMI screen, cable and facia
  3. center console control unit
  4. radiobox and holder
  5. wire loom
  6. gateway
I assisted in the installation and it took us (myself and a very experienced specialist) 11 hours straight in labour. Afterwards had to upgrade the firmware of the climate control unit and remove the component protection. Took about 1.5 month to source the parts from several suppliers and total cost was approx. EUR 1.000,-.
thanks a lot for the information and pictures. as i purchased an a5 i was thinking is this worth it because the amount of work and cost it will be. although i have been searching for parts online and some cut prices to be fair so maybe not as much as before but the labour would be also expensive. would you say do this or just get apple car play and install rear camera.
 

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Haha, that specialist was me :)

I do have some stuff laying around which would be needed for the conversion.
ahh okay sweet and what parts would those be and do you charge to do this fitting. although im in london i was due a trip to amsterdam once the pandemic dies down abit. also similr question i posed to gais...would you say do this upgrade or just get apple car play snd rear camera?
 
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