[Shrek]

Hi there, new to the forum so hello to everyone.

Basically looking at getting an A5 Quattro s-tronic S-line sportback and I'm torn between which to go for. It comes down to either the 2.0 TFSi (211PS) or the 3.0 TDi. On bare numbers this site, using the quoted ROTR prices of 32,525 and 36,220 respectively, and fuel prices at 103.9 and 104.9* it would take over 20 years to recoup the cost, that timeframe gets even longer if diesel were to go back to a gap of 5-7p/litre. Allowing for assumed residuals of 49% and 51% respectively (taken from What Car mag for the A5 coupe - no sportback yet) the diesel claws a bit back but not enough to offset the cost in anything like a sensible time frame. I probably do around 15k miles a year, give or take.

So my question is, are the quoted combined figures reasonable (or at least the approximate 5mpg difference), how are people finding it in the real world?

Also what extras are worth having, i.e. that add or help to retain vehicle value, is the Sat Nav/MMI worth it? Anything else?

Thanks for your help

* What it cost this morning from the local BP for standard fuel - I'd probably use premium stuff in practice as I'm a sucker for the marketing blurb.

 

[Shrek]

Cheers Guys,

I know from having a 1.9TDi in a SEAT a few years back getting the quoted MPG was reasonably achievable and as mentioned people generally seem happy with the 3.0TDi.

As for Sat Nav... a choice between £1550 or £1950... I just can't see it... I have a TomTom already which is fantastic and hasn't let me down and it cost less than £300. The built-in Sat Nav's just seem overpriced for what they deliver. If it was say 500-600 quid for something that was essentially integrated then I might well be tempted but £1500-£2000, I just can't quite stomach it. As mentioned I saw the blast posted by another user earlier.

Based on the 49/51% retained value I calculated an approx £400 advantage to the TDi. I'm most concerned about the 2.0 TFSi being nowhere near the quoted figures. I know they are based on EU tests so don't always reflect real world conditions but if it's a long way out it makes comparison difficult.

Thanks,

Gareth.

 

[Shrek]

Shrek,
1st thing: get a 2-door! lol. Only joking...

:laughinatabove: - fair point, but the sportback seems to provide a good compromise for us, don't have kids yet but plan to at some point so it it offers that flexibility if we need it. And it still looks good IMHO, although yes of course the coupe edges it.

 

[Shrek]

Having had several Audi Satnavs in recent years (all RNS-E for those that care as opposed to the latest 3G MMI in the 2010 MY A5s) I can honestly say that the TomTom is a heap of useless junk in comparison (I have a 540 Live, about 3 months old). Just everything in a TomTom is inferior - even the 7 digit postcode search which should be excellent is a let down. The Audi offers just 5 digits and then a list of different categories in the vicinity of the destination - absolutely superb in the real world. And to cap it all the 540 Live reboots itself once a day as you are driving along - a known problem apparently.

The Audi system is a bargain - honestly it is.

Fair play I can see that's annoying although I've never had such problems with my Go 520.

OK, so one option would be to get the Nav (which I didn't notice includes things like AMI which I was speccing anyway) and going for the manual 3.0 TDi.

Thoughts regarding Manual vs. s-tronic? I was badly burnt with an old DSG on TT that cost me > 5k to fix, but not so worried if it's under warranty. Plus a leap of faith and hoping they've ironed out most of the gremlins.

Thanks again for all the comments.

 

[Shrek]

Having shared that trip down memory lane, you'll probably tell me now you actually had a 1.9 TDi Leon anyway.... :thumbsup:

- it was indeed a Leon, the Mk1 Leon FR... aah she was a good 'un. It was also my first "proper car from new".

If you are only planning kids I would go for the Coupe for now! :cheers:

:cheers: - so far... not managed to convince the wife of that...

The point about sat nav is that you will get a large percentage back at resale on a V6/V8 and some will say they are difficult /impossible to sell without that option.

Your shout though... I went for the NAv but do rate Tom Tom apart from all the bloody wires, suction cups etc etc..

So if I were to decide on the Nav should I go for the standard Nav or the HDD one - is it worth the further £400-odd premium? Apart from a 3D view what does it give me?

I'm just not sure about the Sat Nav, if it come down to it it'll probably go as the spec I'm after is probably just a bit more than I can afford if I'm being honest with myself...

Thanks yet again for all your help, I'm getting there. Hope to have a back to back drive of a 2.0TFSi and a 3,0 TDi in the coming week or so.