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post #1 of 16 Old 16th May 2019, 09:33 AM Thread Starter
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2012 v later S5 models

Hey guys , So i'm looking for an S5 V6

Seen a mix of 2012 and 2014 or 2015 models

Are there any advantages of going for a newer S5 v a slightly older one such as a 2012 model ?

Read the gearboxes were revised at a certain year ?

Is there any major differences in spec or any known faults put right on newer models ?

Also I have a question about warranty , if I bought an S5 with full Audi history but the warranty has expired can I buy a used warranty from Audi like you can with BMW ?

Any advice appreciated

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Hello mate, you need to search on here and there are MANY existing S5 threads to answer all of your questions. Good luck!! Simon

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I believe the last and most stable revision for b8.5 was start of 2013, cant tell you any particulars, but im sure someone here will be able to tell you more details shortly, as for the warranty i dont know how it is in us as majority of people seem to have one, but in uk they only give you a standard year warranty and its up to you what to do afterwards
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Dave Kwatro started a thread recently asking about the different versions where Dippy gave some good advice.
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Yep, I went for a post May 2014 model which has the revised 4th gen CREC engine.

2013 saw the 3rd gen DL501 s-tronic, this has the previous issues ironed out.

CREC engine May 2014 onwards has had a lot of updates, see my threads where Dippy posted a link to the Audi information brochure on the updates.
Basically, it use slightly less fuel, revised fueling with an extra set of MPI injectors in the intake, this makes the idle quieter without the clicking of the high pressure direct injectors. These injectors come in at higher revs.
The supercharger is revised with a magnetic clutch so not driven all the time to aid mpg further. But some say when tuning the clutch can be an issue, we will see!! But looking at the new specs, the drive belt is uprated and higher tensile spec to cope with the SC clutch coming in and out, so it maybe belt slippage rather than clutch slipping. Also has an 'overdemand protection' where the ECU will disengage the clutch if it thinks it has been over used! I'm concerned at how the threshold is set on this!
The supercharger also has revised higher efficiency charge coolers.
Revised timing chains for smoother quieter running
Revised oil cooler
Switchable water pump which doesn't run below 30 degrees to warm the engine quicker - it then switches/pulses on and off to aid cold/hot water mixing more gently.
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Mine is going into Audi for a recall to check the fuel rail, which one I'm not sure and whether this is just the CREC engine. Dippy has had his from new and not received the recall notice yet, so think it might not be an issue, just more of a check.

But the pre May 2014 engine is still a good engine and possibly better given the 'possible' limits of the supercharger clutch.

I was looking at a 62 plate with dynamic suspension, steering, sport diff, but opted for the newer one and haven't looked back. Maybe when I start pushing it I may regret not having a sport diff, but it drives round bends better than my 3.0tdi sport, and feels quite positive and direct.

Good luck!
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The pre-CREC engine was susceptible to timing chain problems at higher mileage. The timing chains were revised in the CREC so hopefully they're OK but only time will tell.

The s-tronic gearbox is indeed the biggest worry because it can be very expensive to repair/replace. By far the most problem reports are for the original version in 2009-2011 cars. But there have been a fair number of reports for the second version in 2011-2013 cars. I have only seen 1 or 2 problem reports from 2013+ cars but it is not clear if they had the second or third version gearbox because we don't have hard data on the dates. From my best efforts in researching it I believe the first revision was sometime in 2011, and I have reasons to believe (but I could be wrong) that the second revision was in May 2013.

I advise that the risk of gearbox problems is the most important reason to prefer 2014/5 cars over a 2012 one. Of course the 2012 car might be fine - not everyone has gearbox problems, and with forums being what they are, seeing the problem reports can give an exaggerated sense of how bad the risk is. If you could find a 2012 car with great options list and a good price then it might be worth taking a risk with the gearbox. Then of course there's the extended warranty route.
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guys many thanks for the info so far in this thread ! some gems of information , much appreciated!

I've had 2nd hand BMW approved cars and always carried on with the warranty , I've read even if out of warranty you can purchase another one provided it has full BMW service history

Is this the case with the audi? , if I bought a private car or from on non audi trader , then rang audi for a 2nd hand warranty can you buy them ? any idea on costs for this ?

With BMW it was around £60 a month

It would give me peace of mind and can broaden my search rather than finding an example at an Audi dealer
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Iíve not heard of anyone on this forum reporting that Audi do that, but why not call Audi UK Customer Care and ask them. The number is 0800 699888 and email is [email protected]
Let us know how you get on.


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You can buy extended warranty from Audi. Thread here for reference.

https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/thread...one-it.373688/
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Just take care that any S5 you buy definitely has had a service history according to the schedule required by an extended warranty. The gearbox service is one of those which is at the longer duration and can be missed, including by dealers (hard to believe but true) and I have read of cases where someone has bought a car on the basis that it had a full service history but then later found out that the gearbox had not been serviced on time. My advice is to get a copy of the service invoice which proves that the gearbox service was done.
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thanks for the replies guys ! I have emailed Audi too will feedback their reply
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Had an email back from Audi forwarding the following link , so its good you can buy a warranty if purchasing 2nd hand from a non audi dealer or private
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Are you us or eu? How much are they charging for such a wonderful thing? 🙂

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Yep thats the one thanks

Your looking over £1000 for a no excess policy , cheaper if you pay £250 excess which brings it down around £750
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