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post #61 of 87 Old 22nd July 2018, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
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Thereís also comprehensive instructions on training and using the voice command system in the MMI manual that (hopefully) came with the car.
thanks for that, sadly the MMI manual is missing

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BTW, I recommend you go through the voice training. It's accessible from the setup screen. It'll make you speak a series of numbers and words, so that it can optimize itself to your voice. Makes a huge difference in accuracy when you use voice commands while driving and road noise enters the cabin. I remain amazed at how accurate it is even with a lot of road noise and dealing with my accent. English is not my first language (I speak Australian), but I have zero issues with accuracy!
oh god the neighbours think i'm weird enough without me now going and sitting in the car and speaking to it... lol but yes will give it a go, much appreciated

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thanks for that, sadly the MMI manual is missing
I can probably help you with that. Got a Dropbox account? PM me with details. I canít do anything with it tonight, but I can send over a PDF of the MMI manual for you tomorrow. Iím pretty sure itís either the exact right one or near as damnit.
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small project to tick off, the subwoofer on the rear shelf distorts and cuts in and out, following the lead set by others I found this thread
https://www.a5oc.com/forums/audi-a5-...ml#post1571796
I won't repeat what's said there but I've gone for one of these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pyle-PLPW...4AAOSwkcFbEGgI
ordered Sunday night and this turned up today

very quick service from the dealer....
and what's inside the box....



wasn't surprised to see a "Made in China" what isn't these days, looks well made...

onto fitting, rear shelf stripped out and new sub offered up, when placed in the opening from above the cage just catches the opening, so it will need fitting from below.
On the opening on the metal shelf there are 3 holes already, on the sub there are 8 mounting holes, so only one would actually line up. I am happy to redrill the metal shelf and i'll insert rivnuts so I can do all the fitting from within the boot.
The only downside to that is my rivnut gun is at work and i'm not.....

Stage 2 tomorrow night...….

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got home early to get to stage 2.....

sub fitted

I unravelled the wiring loom so I could wire up as per this diagram

I cut the plug off leaving enough of a tail "should" I ever need to go back to OEM

Yellow and blue went to the positive, white and yellow went to the negative and then I bridged the other +/- wire some audio speaker cable I had.

Interior all went back together without a hitch.


onto testing.....


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I've always liked the factory B&O, having enjoyed it in my previous A5 and the same in my S5 but I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever felt the bass.....

time will tell how well this £30 (to be fair it was on offer and normally retailed at £55) "cheap" sub lasts but it's not the hardest of jobs to replace....

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Well they do say once you go black you never go back.....

A chance purchase of a genuine S5 Black Edition grill made me a very happy boy. This for me was the much preferred route rather than painting the front grill as I know from experience that the paint never lasts long due to wear and tear...

So in between short showers today had the car sat in front of the garage awaiting surgery

as she left the factory, genuine chrome....

it just fell off honest Mister....!!!



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Nice posts and upgrade

I have enjoyed your posts cheers......

Love the car, mine is the same color, wished I now got the V8, mine is the 3.2. I was worried about the timing chains not being serviceable on the V8, but in the B8 they largely fixed the problem of the broken upper timing chain tensioner. Did not know this when I was looking.

Just purchased myself a new sub after reading your post.

Keep you the posts.
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I have enjoyed your posts cheers......

Love the car, mine is the same color, wished I now got the V8, mine is the 3.2. I was worried about the timing chains not being serviceable on the V8, but in the B8 they largely fixed the problem of the broken upper timing chain tensioner. Did not know this when I was looking.

Just purchased myself a new sub after reading your post.

Keep you the posts.
thank you for the kind comment, get some pics up of yours...

Yes they've pretty much made the B8 V8 bomb proof

What sub did you get?

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As said, my exhaust project is a slow burn (hence the title) and it has to fit in around the real life stuff of work and actually using the S5 everyday but i'm happy to show bits and pieces along the way...
Things like the silencers will be bought items readily available, I'm going to use Magnaflow silencers as have used them a lot in the past with very good results.

Things like the flange to mate the downpipes to the exhaust manifold are not available, so are drawn up in CAD and sent as a file to the laser cutters to be made.

Starts like this

The parts arrived Friday and i'll stick a pic up of them when back in the office

All other joints will be V-bands, again it starts as a CAD file which is then sent off for machining. I prefer to make them as a male/female part as I've found they seal much better


and then the x-pipe, this starts as 4 individual 45 degree cut mandrel bends which are laser cut and then welded to form the X-pipe


So, it's getting there slowly.....
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Grill looks smashing !

Brilliant build thread btw, might be asking some tips soon haha.

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Grill looks smashing !

Brilliant build thread btw, might be asking some tips soon haha.

glad you approve

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and here we have the 2no flanges laser cut from the CAD file


the only way these differ from anything standard is the centre bore is the diameter of the exhaust tubing I plan on making the exhaust from, this being 63.5mm diameter

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ok, what's the next head scratcher then.... well I don't like the red illumination on the climate control panel.... I want it to match the white illumination on the dash....
thank fully others have already attempted this so having read up, then read some more and then read again... I've hatched a plan...!!!

It'll be a cold day in hell before I let an Audi "technician" plug anything into my car, so that ruled out any form of component protection removal, as I don't have the facility myself, as it can't (yet) be done via VCDS.

So a face lift climate panel has been sourced and my plan is to disassemble and modify my existing one using the LED's and white diffuser panel, thankfully I have PCB/LED soldering experience and the tools for it... Just hope the eyesight is up to it....!!!

FL panel should be here this week.... watch this space

i'm also tempted at some point to do the matching colours on the MMI panel as detailed on the AudiEnthusiast site but that won't be just yet
http://www.audienthusiasts.com/Project_MMILED.html
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well as it's part of the VAG family I may as well post in my thread...

something a little bit different for the weekend???


under the skin it's basically a 6.0 W12 VW Phaeton, which makes getting parts cheaper than adding the Bentley tax

late 2003, with only 67,500 miles..... not been used in 3 years, more lights on the dash than Oxford Street at Christmas, tyres in good condition as at least it's been rolled back and forth and had a battery conditioner on it....
Interior was mouldy and had more penicillin than Boots the Chemist....

Main faults are it needs 2 new Bosch MAF's, hopefully that's cure the EGT and Lambda faults.... all lights turned off enough to get her MOT'd this morning and taxed so can at least drive the poor thing.

then this afternoon is deep cleanse time, more cobwebs than an Indiana Jones stage set.....!!!
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I think youíve just flabbered my gast, restricted! That is both outrageous and awesome.
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finally the new climate panel arrived, so whipped the original one out for a comparison


initial observations are it is the correct FL version, in that the panel has the white on black display I am after.
time to take it to bits to see what's inside


I had hoped I could use the newer fascia panel and put the control buttons from my old panel into the newer panel... sadly they are not cross compatible, the clips which retain them are in different positions.
So my next thought was to take the chrome knobs and put them on the older panel.... nope different on the inside also....

so all i'll be able to swap over are the white LED's and diffuser and have my original panel but with the display I want.

My other option is to find a newer control panel with all of the buttons which match mine and go for Component Protection removal.....

Saturday will see me going blind looking at the TINY LED's and desoldering them and putting them into my original panel....

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If I recall fellow forum user Masuurik did something similar with regards to the AC panel in his build thread.

Otherwise, good stuff! Impressive getting the exhaust done measured and cut with that sort of precision and customisation

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If I recall fellow forum user Masuurik did something similar with regards to the AC panel in his build thread.
you are correct he did, it was his idea which gave me the idea...

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well what have we learned today.

the LED's on the facelift panel are a different polarity, with being a 4pin variety (strangely Masurik's PCB and LED's were a 2pin type... no idea why mine are different but anyway).
You can rotate the 4 pin but it illuminates red as the originals are as it is reversed.

So 4pin white emitting LED's of the correct polarity are now on order.

Other observations are the white and red diffuser are subtly different, height and pin locations

1 step forward and all that...Ö

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so, the new white LED's arrived

disassembled and soldered one on to test it illuminated white, it did.... perfectly, so set about desoldering the remaining ones and disaster struck, one of the PCB boards pads which the pins solder too came off (it was the pad which I had experimented with last weekend repeatedly taking off/putting on of the LED and it finally gave way...

So, I need a new board, one is on order... so if I have the same part number but another board, i'll need to remove CP I'm assuming?

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Well the replacement panel arrived, new LED's are soldered in, all is assembled and I need to find time to install it and get the CP removed, I've also bought a FL panel which I might get CP removed on also if for any reason the modified one causes me any long term grief.
I've been talking with a guy in Poland who can do remote CP removal, so I've bought a VAS 5459a and fingers crossed I don't need to use a Dealer.

The S5 has been retired from daily use now as I was starting to put more miles on than I wanted with work, she's back to being a weekend toy.
Found a nice 2012 VW CC GT to rack the miles on, and of course it's something else to restore, improve etc lol....
The CC is currently in the paint shop having all the bad paint removed and repainted properly....

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After many failed attempts to get the LED's to work, I bought yet another FL climate panel, this time the spec I needed (seat heating etc.)
Trawling the net to see how to remove component protection I stumbled upon a name, Jack Kirby. So I started googling...
I found his skype address and started chatting, he advised on what software and tools were need (VAS5054a) and he needed remote access of my pc to do the CP removal....

A picture paints a thousand words....


a few coding tweaks so the fan speed worked as it should and all is done....

I am messaging Rosstech to see if they can assist with the codings to get the display and modules all communicating back to as it should.....

Certainly wasn't a cheap exercise to get the white on black but at least it is possible to fit a FL climate panel to a preFL car and have it function correctly.
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some may remember earlier in the thread I am slowly designing and making my own exhaust.
So, I love to try new things and I wanted to try laser cutting the bird beak cuts for the X-pipe, the cuts are very similar as if you were making an exhaust collector, the old school way is to cut them on a vertical bandsaw and then linish the edges until all the pieces match.

As this way (this is the collector I made for my motorbike as an example of the old school way)

2 cuts to produce the joints, very laborious and time consuming
the angles of cut are critical depending the amount of ports

4 tubes, lots of cuts and linishing to get the finished results

Now with the X-pipe it is the same principle but all cuts are on a flat plane as it isn't a merge collector as above but 2 in/2 out arrangement.
So I drew it all up in CAD

which allowed me to create a digital file the laser cutting machine could read.

4 number bird beak cuts, in 1 hit with no linishing required and I've got perfect joints. Before I weld it all together I need to mandrel bend these pieces 45 degrees
This is the joint


The exhaust is moving ever forward.....

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A question (he said, never one to miss an opportunity to display his ignorance): why mandrel bend after the cutting? Iíd have thought that doing so would risk throwing the cuts out.

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A question (he said, never one to miss an opportunity to display his ignorance): why mandrel bend after the cutting? Iíd have thought that doing so would risk throwing the cuts out.
why? as I don't have access to a 5D laser cutter, lol.... only a poor old 3D, so the tube has to be straight for the cutting and then bent afterwards.

Life with the S5 is going well, her retirement from daily life means the miles are now not piling on...
I treated her to some spacers... 15mm front, 20mm rear
rear standard

rear with 20mm spacer

front standard

front with 15mm spacer


all on standard suspension (for now)
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Very nice. Where'd you get the vag com cable from? I seem to be able to find an obdi cable for £15, yet elsewhere vag com kits are £200+
Is it like my bike - cheap cable and some downloadable software on my laptop, or is there specialist kit required?

Also, Where'd you get the spacers from and how much?

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Very nice. Where'd you get the vag com cable from? I seem to be able to find an obdi cable for £15, yet elsewhere vag com kits are £200+
Is it like my bike - cheap cable and some downloadable software on my laptop, or is there specialist kit required?

Also, Where'd you get the spacers from and how much?
spacers I bought from Ebay
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you need to add a new locking wheel nut set as not included in this. Make sure you specify what seat your wheels have (radius or taper). As an engineer I was very happy with the quality, they are nicely machined.

my VCDS cable I've had for years, I bought a genuine Ross Tech cable when they were only available in the USA, you can now buy them in the UK I believe? I'd only recommend a genuine cable, others may have different opinions.

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Tvm, I'll look into the spacers. And thanks for the info on the vag com cable, I'll add that to the list as well.
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