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Talking A5 Black Edition lowered & spaced: H&R Sport Springs & TRAK+ 15mm/20mm Spacers

Hi all,

My first ever post on here!

I've been digging around these forums for a while looking to lower and widen the track of my A5 Black Edition with 19" Rotors and the factory sport suspension, and after a lot of deliberation I finally chose to roll with:
  • H&R Sport Springs (1.3" and 1.25" lowering, front and rear respectively)
  • H&R TRAK+ spacers (15mm and 20mm, front and rear respectively)

I thought I'd post up a few before and after photos as I struggled to find any information on the net relating to this spring/spacer combination. I hope you like the results - I love them!

ps. Though you can most certainly tell, the "after" photos are the ones taken in the car park. Also, these are photos just two days after installation, things will no doubt settle a little.
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Looks Very nice, do you find you have a lot of negative camber now?
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Congrats! Your car look amazing
Your h&r sports spring look more like the OE (1" drop)
I have an S5 and can't make up my mind if I should go with OE or sports springs
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Looks Very nice, do you find you have a lot of negative camber now?
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Thanks! Nope, not that much at all to be honest. Managed to have all four corners aligned to factory spec. for the S-Line suspension.
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Congrats! Your car look amazing
Your h&r sports spring look more like the OE (1" drop)
I have an S5 and can't make up my mind if I should go with OE or sports springs
Cheers!

My A5 originally had the Audi Sport Suspension, and the car was lowered an additional 22-24mm using the H&R Sport springs (not H&R OE Sport). I'm expecting they'll settle a bit more.

I was originally considering the Eibach Pro Kit, but opted for the aforementioned. I was after a tasteful lowering that nicely filled the wheel arches. From the photos I'd spotted around, it seemed as though the Eibachs would've left me feeling that the arches could do with a little more filling and that there was not much of a noticeable change to justify the cost.

Very pleased with my (last minute) decision to go with the H&R Sports.
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Hi

I have a new A5 BE plus,

Is the lowering an expensive item to do?

Thanks

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I have a new A5 BE plus,

Is the lowering an expensive item to do?

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I was quoted £377 for the H&R springs and fitting. They priced matches the springs on eBay (UK listing of £197) and fitting was £150 + VAT.

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Thanks for the info , not as much as I thought

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Thanks for the info , not as much as I thought

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No problem buddy. I think this was pretty cheap though!

Still a fair lump of cash for basically dropping the car 1"...!

Sure I'll find a way to justify the expense at some point!

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like it a lot! looks great as it is now!!!


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Just collected my car back from the garage after having had my H&R OE springs 29061-1 fitted, picked these up from spring loaded suspension on EBay for a reasonable 195.00 and free next day delivery P&P, the additional cost by my local indie for fitting and wheel alignment was 121.00 and completed within 4 hours - a very good result all round given I have been quoted double this for fitting by some indies.

Would put some picks but it does need to settle but can clearly see a difference, with a very slight stiffer ride but nothing that will break your back...

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I'm having 20s put on to replace my 19 rotors. I think I'm going to need H&R sport springs also how does this ride compared to stock or is there a better spring that I can drop an inch and not lose ride quality
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Cheers for the positive feedback everyone! Glad you like!
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I'm having 20s put on to replace my 19 rotors. I think I'm going to need H&R sport springs also how does this ride compared to stock or is there a better spring that I can drop an inch and not lose ride quality
So after a few days of driving around motorways, town roads, and country roads, the ride is noticeably firmer than the factory sport suspension and I can feel road surface "features" more. That being said, I don't find the ride uncomfortable personally, nor do any of the passengers I've had with me. I find the setup works especially well with the tyres I had fitted recently (good ol' faithful Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2s). The car feels absolutely planted (and of course looks pretty tasty too ).
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So a month and a bit later, some settling has certainly occurred... Click image for larger version

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hello

car looks great.

just to confirm you have the 1BE suspension previously and have fitted the 35mm sprt springs not the 25mm OE springs?

i am undecided which way to go but if thisis the 35mm i might go this way as the arch gap is what i want.

do you struggle with the front at all on speed bumps or multi story car parks?

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I had 35mm h&r put on mine and was
Surprised how much lower it looked, on the standard 18's mine came with there wasn't much problems, some harsh multi-story car parks can be an issue with the middle underside because of how long these are, but now I've got 20's on it has raised it slightly but the arch gap isn't much now, think it's just right for a mix between looks and practicality
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Josh so that doesnt catch on speed bumps or multi stories with the 20's on?

also do you have to crawl over speed bumps and does it stop you straddling the humps?

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Sorry about the late reply! It doesn't scrape no, and I can straddle those annoying type of speed bumps, even with a splitter on the front, and multi-story should be fine, got up one no hassle with the standard 18's on apart from the top level, but I'm guessing now with the 20's on it'll be fine
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And the rides abit firmer but it feels a lot more responsive, I go over normal ones about 20, could go faster just don't want to put too much force on the standard shocks, havent tried going over a hump one that quick yet though, annoying red things!
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Hello all
Cars look awesome
Iam in the same boat don't know which to do
Put 20's on and lower it
Or
Keep my 19's but get them done in grey, lower it and fit spacers ??
Original wheels on my car are the 19" RS6 style five segment wheels ??
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If you put 20's on then it'll sit nice just on springs, if you keep with the 19's you might want coilovers, depends how low you're wanting to go, but 20's and 35mm springs is still practical will look nice either way!
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Looks very nice, has settled well.

I recently went for 20/f 25/r H&R DRA setup but found that my tyres are poking out from the arches giving it the 4x4 look. So I decided that I need to put the 20mm on the back and stick 15mm on the front like the OP.

My question is does anyone know the best place to buy the extended bolts from? I am currently using the DRA system but 15mm ones will require the longer bolts. I think i need 43mm long ball seat ones?

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Looks very nice, has settled well.

I recently went for 20/f 25/r H&R DRA setup but found that my tyres are poking out from the arches giving it the 4x4 look. So I decided that I need to put the 20mm on the back and stick 15mm on the front like the OP.

My question is does anyone know the best place to buy the extended bolts from? I am currently using the DRA system but 15mm ones will require the longer bolts. I think i need 43mm long ball seat ones?

You do indeed. I got mine off eBay.

Although also check the size of the bolt head, as I think Audi have a 17mm bolt head, whereas the extended bolts I bought have a 19mm bolt head. Just means you can't use the wrench in the Audi boot. I bought a torque wrench with 3 sizes for the bolt head adaptor, so not a massive issue.

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You do indeed. I got mine off eBay.

Although also check the size of the bolt head, as I think Audi have a 17mm bolt head, whereas the extended bolts I bought have a 19mm bolt head. Just means you can't use the wrench in the Audi boot. I bought a torque wrench with 3 sizes for the bolt head adaptor, so not a massive issue.
Thanks buddy, I will check that out. Just to confirm its the M14 x 1.5 ones I need right?

Also, can i get away with 40 or 45mm thread length. Does anyone know the tolerance?

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Thanks buddy, I will check that out. Just to confirm its the M14 x 1.5 ones I need right?

Also, can i get away with 40 or 45mm thread length. Does anyone know the tolerance?

Sorry if I am hijacking the thread.

Yea M14 X 1.5.

I think 45mm is ok..will give you enough rotations to secure. Wouldn't go any lower than 43mm.

I'm by no means an expert on this and would await confirmation from a more informed forum member, or better yet do a search. I can't imagine it hasn't been discussed before.

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car looks great.

just to confirm you have the 1BE suspension previously and have fitted the 35mm sprt springs not the 25mm OE springs?

i am undecided which way to go but if thisis the 35mm i might go this way as the arch gap is what i want.

do you struggle with the front at all on speed bumps or multi story car parks?
Hey! Sorry for the slow response. Yup 1BE --> H&R 35mm sport springs. Just the job! In fact the car has settled EVEN more than the last settle photo I posted... Check it out: Click image for larger version

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