VAG COM to change Audi Drive Select default mode - here...

[ChrisMT79]

I just had my car in for its first service with all these options unlocked(although not selectable at the time) and they didnt say anything. I even went out and turned on my blinker after they were done to be sure the "wink" wasnt programmed back in. I think people out here are the boards are wayyy more knowledgable than most in the service departments. lol

[Omeletpants]

Originally Posted by ChrisMT79

I just had my car in for its first service with all these options unlocked(although not selectable at the time) and they didnt say anything. I even went out and turned on my blinker after they were done to be sure the "wink" wasnt programmed back in. I think people out here are the boards are wayyy more knowledgable than most in the service departments. lol

Chris, where are you located in Michigan? and is your a 10 or 09?

[xxkazxx]

So basically I would have to choose which settings I want and thats it....would this basically then make shifting to S instead of D useless since all my settings are going to quicken my shifts and all the fun stuff anyway? Also(I'm sure this has been discussed but I feel it should be included in this thread as well)-but what exactly are the options....Comfort, Auto, and Dynamic? And basically what is each best used for? Dynamic sounds like it would be the best all around for driving (just based on its name lol)

EDIT.......ignore the first line-I re-read the thread and realized I'll be able to change it at will through the regular MMI....sorry about that lol

p.s. THATS AWESOME..... I'm amazed about the ability to do that...I also want to say Thanks to everyone in here for answering all my questions, I know I ask a lot but I figure without questions there wouldn't be progress right? or something lol

[capvag]

Ok i enabled all of four bits in byte 8 (now it is 00111100). Faults in 09 centr Electr are:

2 Faults Found
00471 - Control Module for Elect. Regulated Dampers (J250)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 215
Mileage: 20811 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.03.12
Time: 14:23:00

03207 - Charisma Switch Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 212
Mileage: 20793 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.03.11
Time: 18:45:00

That's normal since i do not have regulated dampers. Concerning charisma, is it normal to appear there? ok there is no such module installed, but i really feel engine and manual gearbox to have been improved. Probably i will go back to 0 at the bit of dampers. Since there is no fault for steering and sports diff. does this mean they work correctly and have been enabled?

Question: is it possible to enable all these options in concert screen?

[capvag]

Originally Posted by ChrisMT79

Well after working with the codes with Zee (thanks again man, your great!) We were able to unlock engine, steering, suspension and sport diff all selectable!
Your coding should look like this, well I have an S4 so hopefully it works for everyone
Byte 7- 00100001
Byte 8- 00111100
Byte 17-10011101
And the result!

Chris, do you know what bit 0 in byte 17 is for? Mine is set by default at 0. Zee's default code for byte 17 bit 0, is also set to 0.

[ChrisMT79]

Omeletpants-Im in Novi and its a 10

I had to switch bit 0 to 1 to activite the menu I believe. I'll have to go back out and check to be sure. I havent messed with it since last night.

Originally Posted by capvag

Chris, do you know what bit 0 in byte 17 is for? Mine is set by default at 0. Zee's default code for byte 17 bit 0, is also set to 0.

[audi_s5]

Originally Posted by Ryan_T

This is not substitute to an ecu tune from apr or giac. This changes how the engine responds to throttle and adjusts the shift points. If you're chipped and switch to dynamic, you see even MOAR response.

Has anyone else done this to a manual/6MT S5 already ecu tuned?

Feedback?

Am I correct to assume this will work with Manual car for engine/steering?

Thanks again & Great Find Guys!

[capvag]

Originally Posted by ChrisMT79

Omeletpants-Im in Novi and its a 10

I had to switch bit 0 to 1 to activite the menu I believe. I'll have to go back out and check to be sure. I havent messed with it since last night.

Ok try it when you can, and let us know, i ll try to find which bit may enable menu for concert radio.

But i think menu in yours MMI has been activated through hidden menu, so i think it was 1 by default maybe? or accidentally changed?

[loc]

zee007 and Chris, thank you for the updates and continued info. I am sure the community appreciated this a lot!

I have updated the VAG COM list in my signature to reflect.

[loc]

Originally Posted by capvag

Ok try it when you can, and let us know, i ll try to find which bit may enable menu for concert radio.

But i think menu in yours MMI has been activated through hidden menu, so i think it was 1 by default maybe? or accidentally changed?

I would be very surprised in there was a Drive Select individual menu in radio Concert/Symphony since A4/A5/Q5 cars with Drive Select but without factory navigation always come without the individual button. Having such a menu in the radio would make no sense since it drives different software compared to the navigation and no factory configuration would use it.

Of course if they planned to have that feature and only removed the button for product differentiation and to sell more factory navis, then it may be there. Good luck!

[loc]

Originally Posted by audi_s5

Am I correct to assume this will work with Manual car for engine/steering?

Indeed you should be correct.

[loc]

Originally Posted by capvag

That's normal since i do not have regulated dampers. Concerning charisma, is it normal to appear there? ok there is no such module installed, but i really feel engine and manual gearbox to have been improved. Probably i will go back to 0 at the bit of dampers. Since there is no fault for steering and sports diff. does this mean they work correctly and have been enabled?

Charisma is probably just the Drive Select switch (the buttons and lights), so probably no problem - just live with the error.

If your car does not have a sports diff so I doubt that mode is doing anything for you (and if you had it, you'd have limited Drive Select including Charisma buttons too). In cars without drive select personally I'd try to enable only engine and steering modes, no use trying dynamic dampeners and sports diff since they obviously aren't there. I wonder if the steering bit recognizes between Servotronic steering (the regular kind) and the dynamic steering (the Audi Drive Select option hardware) and "just works" with whichever is in the car with that coding...

[capvag]

Originally Posted by loc

I wonder if the steering bit recognizes between Servotronic steering (the regular kind) and the dynamic steering (the Audi Drive Select option hardware) and "just works" with whichever is in the car with that coding...

There is no fault in VCDS scan concerning steering, so i assume just works with whichever is in the car with that coding. Correct me if am wrong...

[C99]

Originally Posted by ChrisMT79

As you can see here there are 2 possibilities:
Steering = Servotronic
and Dyn.steering = Dynamic steering.

So no errors.

Even Audi has never said, ADS works with Servotronic, It does !!!

[capvag]

I have tried to discover some other options at byte 7, 8, 17. So, at byte7 changing also bit 4 from 0 to 1 did show fault concerning active steering:

03110 - Active Steering Control Module (J792)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 216
Mileage: 20812 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.03.14
Time: 02:23:00

Probably this refers to ADS active steering?

Also at byte 8, bit 4 is the one for dampers and i put it back to 0 since i have not such hardware at the vehicle. I also tried to set back to 0 bit 3 because in my ECU, steering setting appears to be (as described above) at byte 7 bit4. - concert radio Also disabled sports diff. bit 5 back to 0.


I played with 56 -radio and discovered that in byte 12, if someone set 1 at bit0, then startup screen logo changes to S5 logo! If someone sets 1 at bit 1, then startup logo screen appears RS logo!!! And if you set both 0 and 1 bits at value of 1, then you have a logo of S.

sorry for bad pic.

[Chris_B]

Interesting stuff.

I've got dampers and steering on the S5 (sport diff wasn't an option then or I'd have had that too!) but on the S4 (due in around 4 weeks!) I'm having sport diff, and dampers but no dynamic steering.

I wonder if the ADS menu will have "Steering" then? Obviously if it doesn't, I'l want to enable it!

Also, the S5 is a Tip, so it has the Engine/Gearbox option in ADS. The S4 will be S-Tronic, so I assume it will do the same. I've really only found one issue with the ADS, and that's that in Dynamic, it locks 6th gear out, even using the Tiptronic or paddle shifters. Now, I'd have understood if it locked it out in D so it was like the old Sport mode on Tip, but I can't see why I can't select it manually from the paddles - I like the firm steering and suspension, but would like to be able to use 6th gear!

My work-around is to have an ADS Individual profile that has Engine/Gearbox=Auto, Steering=Dynamic, Suspension=Dynamic and then I can use the paddles to get 6th gear. I don't care that the gearbox is in Auto as I'll use it in Tip mode and shift myself.

However, I'd like the throttle response to be Dynamic. I wonder if enabling the Engine option (as if it was a manual) would allow Dynamic engine response but Auto gearbox? If both were enabled, I wonder which would take precedence on engine settings?

[morski]

Thanks to guys who found this mod and those who have contributed towards it.

Ok i just managed to get it activated on my S5. No standard ADS and MT. Took a few attempts to get it showing up on the MMI. You not only need to activate 'Charisma' in the hidden menu car menus maske Diag settings but i also had to enable it in APK 0x1.
This part i got from the AZ site:
Byte 8, bit 2, change 0 to 1 (Display Engine in MMI)
Byte 8, bit 3, change 0 to 1 (Display Steering in MMI)
Byte 8, bit 4, change 0 to 1 (Display Suspension in MMI)
Byte 8, bit 5, change 0 to 1 (Display Sports Diff in MMI)

Mine was slightly different; to enable the steering in Byte 8 i had to change Bit 4. Bit 3 was for suspension.

Make sure you keep a very close eye on what changes you make as you can screw up settings very quickly and very easily.
Not been out for a test drive yet but will tomorrow to see how it feels

[loc]

Originally Posted by Chris_B

I wonder if the ADS menu will have "Steering" then? Obviously if it doesn't, I'l want to enable it!

It will have Steering there.

Steering is standard whenever ADS is there (unless some weird market-coding would disable it which I haven't heard about).

Dyn. Steering requires the active/dynamic steering option.

Also, the S5 is a Tip, so it has the Engine/Gearbox option in ADS. The S4 will be S-Tronic, so I assume it will do the same.

Yes.

As for trying to enable the manual engine mode in an automatic, I guess one can only try... it might be only a coding for labelling, though, who knows.

[Chris_B]

Thanks loc. Looks like my list of potential VCDS mods is getting shorter then - DRL behaviours and oil temp is about it!

[pino]

Very good stuff! I tried it on my wife's A4 avant (S-line, navi, non-ADS) and everything went as it should once I figured out how to count in bit language. (sometimes, I are an idiot.)

I activated engine and steering.
The error for the charisma switch is there as well.

Let's see if the wifey likes my fiddling or not......

Originally Posted by capvag

I played with 56 -radio and discovered that in byte 12, if someone set 1 at bit0, then startup screen logo changes to S5 logo! If someone sets 1 at bit 1, then startup logo screen appears RS logo!!! And if you set both 0 and 1 bits at value of 1, then you have a logo of S.

Could you divulge a bit more on this? I couldn't find any long coding helper or any other way to adjust any radio codes except for the language/market code.

Many thanks!

[capvag]

connect vag-com and go to channel 56. Then coding, then long coding helper then last byte and change bit 0 or bit 1 (to value 1) or both to 1. That of course are for Radio concert/symphony.

[pino]

Originally Posted by capvag

connect vag-com and go to channel 56. Then coding, then long coding helper then last byte and change bit 0 or bit 1 (to value 1) or both to 1. That of course are for Radio concert/symphony.

That's what I kind of figured, but I don't have any long coding helper present in my window. But the car is equipped with the B&O system. That must be the difference.

Thanks again for your help!

PS how do you get the pics up of VAGCOM screens so easily?

[capvag]

screenshot utility v1.0

[robstu]

Capvag you wrote
"Also at byte 8, bit 4 is the one for dampers and i put it back to 0 since i have not such hardware at the vehicle. I also tried to set back to 0 bit 3 because in my ECU, steering setting appears to be (as described above) at byte 7 bit4. - concert radio Also disabled sports diff. bit 5 back to 0."

I did the ADS mods today on my A5 3.0TDIq with man. g-box and concert radio. I picked for channels 63-66 number 3 (dynamic) and went for a test drive..tell me what should be the difference in throttle response and steering?

Now I would just settle for just the engine mode (dynamic) and leave the rest standard. Did that work as you wrote or how is that done? (the quote from Capcag above)

[capvag]

Yes it works. I mean throttle response is faster and steering became tighter at 20km/h and after. Especially in turns.

What i have finally changed are: At byte 7 bit5, at byte 8 bits 0,1,2,4 and at byte 17 bit7. Of course all to value 1. Also channels 63,64,65,66 change them to 3.

Be careful, some people say that different bits in byte 8 work for them, but in my car and also in some German forums say the bits that already have mentioned above.

Do it exactly as i write and check if you have any benefits.

[jpbb03]

So I'm having an issue with this. I have changed all the necessary setting as described, but it will not allow me to change or enter any values into channels 63, 64, 65, or 66. Its states that these channels are not available. Anyone have any insight on this? Thanks.

[robstu]

Capvag: I have the following coding:
Byte 7- 00100001
Byte 8- 00111100
Byte 17-10011101

If I understood you right you have in Byte 7 different coding..and in byte 8.
Does yours look like this?
Byte 7- 00000101
Byte 8- 00101100
Byte 17-10011101

I also have the channels on dynamic (3). The key issue must be in byte 7 because byte 8 is irrelevant to us since it only determs if the option shall be in the MMI menu (not in use for concert radio).

jpbb03: I guess something went wrong with you coding (see above) because only after doing that in a correct way the channels open.

[jpbb03]

Okay, I will be meeting up with my vag-com guy again tomorrow, assuming I can get this figured out. Also, after reading the directions again, I don't see any place to change the charisma in the hidden menu. On another note, when I accessed the hidden menu, Charisma was already 'checked'. Is that normal.

So you think we made a mistake on the coding and that's why those channels are locked?

Thanks for the help. I really look forward to having this option available.

[zee007]

Originally Posted by jpbb03

So you think we made a mistake on the coding and that's why those channels are locked?

Thanks for the help. I really look forward to having this option available.

I think you must have made a mistake. It has worked if followed exactly for numerous members (including myself). Double check all the steps outlined in the thread. The Carisma setting is there in the hidden menu - I've vaildated it myself. Once again:

Activate Audi drive select individual in MMI:
for MMI 2G go to secret menu and in Diag settings, Car menus maske, check Carisma and go down to Accept changes.
Restart MMI.

for MMI 3G go to the secret menu, Select "Car" menu, Select “cardevicelist”, scroll down and check Carisma.
Now, go back, and still in the "Car" menu, select “carmenuoperation”. Scroll down to Carisma. It will be set to 0 you will change it to 1 then push the scroll wheel to set it.
Restart MMI.

Next (same for both 2G and 3G) Coding 09-Central electric:

for carisma engine only
Byte 7, bit 5, change 0 to 1
Byte 8, bit 2, change 0 to 1
Byte 17, bit 7, change 0 to 1

After this coding channels 63 - 66 are enabled (before this they are not available)

[09 – Cent. Elect.]
[Security Access - 16]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 63
change to 04

[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 64
change to 04

[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 65
change to 04

[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 66
change to 04

4 = Individual

[jpbb03]

Okay, thanks. I have MMI 2G. I'm assuming that I do not have to change the carisma from 0 to 1 within the hidden menu? I'm assuming this, because it will not allow me. I have found the carisma option within the hidden menu and it is checked.

We must have made a coding error, which is not allowing us to change the necessary channels.

Thanks again.