Technical Service Bulletins for A5/S5

[SDS5]

Sorry this one

[1000songs]

Originally Posted by Europa

Awesome. My car is at the doc right now getting this.

Let us know how you made out. Given all the previous hue and cry about the anti-stall provisions, I expected there to be more reactions about the latest software update.

I am absolutely amazed at how different the car behaves. For the better.

[sapper424]

SDS5,

Thank's...awesome thread

[SnowDay]

Originally Posted by SDS5

Attached is a list of TSB for the A5/S5 - its not a complete list, but hopefully it will be of use to forum members.

I'm wondering where these TSBs are valid. I had my 2009 S5 in to the dealer yesterday for the 5K mile service. I mentioned I could hear wind noise around the A-pillar above 40mph. I was convinced the window was not completely sealing against the rubber gasket. There are 2 TSBs on the forum list for wind noise around the A-pillar.

The dealer acknowledged they could barely hear a very slight bit of wind noise but after confirming window positioning concluded everything is as expected (for a frameless window). They said there were no bulletins for my car for A-pillar wind noise.

I showed them the forum list. They showed me their list. We spent a while going through their database and reviewing all of the bulletins that appeared and there were none for A-pillar wind noise.

Hence my curiosity about where the forum TSB list is valid.


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epilogue to the wind noise itself

The service advisor told me of customers who have found wind rushing through the small side mirror gap (between the folding portion and fixed base) to cause whistling and had fixed it by folding the mirror in and placing a small sticky pad (like the pile side of velcro) in the interface to block the wind when the mirror was unfolded.

So on my way home, I rolled down the window when the noise became audible. The noise was still there! (I usually have the window up at these speeds). It was coming from the mirror right where he suggested. I will experiment on a windblocker fix but in the meantime, if anyone has fitted their own custom windblocker, please share.

[Meteor Ghost]

That's my point I made in an earlier post. I've asked about the actual TSB's and what they actually fixed. The ones that are posted are just numbers to me. I'd like to see like in several posts someone has actually posted the directions to fix the problem and that's what we need.

[SDS5]

Hi Snowday, Meteor Ghost

I think the way its meant to work is that Audi dealer reads these TSB first before trying to fault find. You are not alone in finding dealers without a full knowledge of these TSB's That's one of the reasons I posted the list....on the A pillar noise there could be many sources of noise, but one which is a known problem is described in the attached TSB...

hope this helps....

[SnowDay]

Originally Posted by SDS5

Hi Snowday, Meteor Ghost

I think the way its meant to work is that Audi dealer reads these TSB first before trying to fault find. You are not alone in finding dealers without a full knowledge of these TSB's That's one of the reasons I posted the list....on the A pillar noise there could be many sources of noise, but one which is a known problem is described in the attached TSB...

hope this helps....

SDS5,

Thanks for posting the actual TSB! I'm not sure my car has this particular root cause (I'll check) but it's very helpful to be able to see the TSB contents. Can you post the other A-pillar wind noise TSB (66 08 18)?

It's still a mystery to me why the dealer couldn't see all of these TSBs. Where did you get the list from?

[SDS5]

Hi Snowday,

I created the list at the start of the thread:-) I figured it would be very helpful for new members to see known faults, issues and remedies on this new model - a way to get educated about your car. Most of the time spent on repairs is at the diagnosis stage, and knowing a bit about your car when taking its to the dealers can be helpful to both parties. Nothing worse that having some one fix a problem that doesn't exist. Noises are notoriously difficult to isolate and locate.

I have no idea why some dealers do not seem to have these TSB's - that their internal problem I guess.

The other TSB you mentioned is just an update of the one that was posted - it addresses the same issue/problem

Regards

[index411]

SDS5, can you please post the actual door rattle TSB (passenger side door rattle)?
thanks!

[maxwell5555]

Anyone know if there's an anti-stall update for the 2009 A5? Mine behaves the same way, but unfortunately the listed TSB is for the 2008 S5 only.

[dbise]

Originally Posted by maxwell5555

Anyone know if there's an anti-stall update for the 2009 A5? Mine behaves the same way, but unfortunately the listed TSB is for the 2008 S5 only.

Same here, my 2009 S5 exhibits the same behavior - any info. on a similar application for 2009 is needed. If I tried to get a 2008 TSB applied to my 2009 car, the dealer would tell me to buzz off, and rightully so.

DB

[AngelRomero]

bringing this thread back from the dead, does anybody have an updated list of TSB's? I have had an 2010 A5 since August, with 0 issues, just wanted to check though, thanks!

[Meteor Ghost]

I can check my bentley manual later on this weekend and get back here.

[NYS5]

Some TSBs are specific to certain VIN number ranges or model year vehicles. When you put a customer's VIN number into ELSA it brings up all TSB's that are applicable to their particular vehicle. If a TSB doesn't show up it cannot be performed on that vehicle unless Audi technical assistance directs the technician to do so, or unless you jump through some warranty hoops

[Sui-Generis]

do you happen to have a TSB for A5 Year 2009?

[turbota221]

Has anyone found a fix for the door rattle on the driver's side with certain bass frequencies? I took my 2009 A5 into the dealership to fix a couple things and they said that they did not hear the rattle. They have been pretty good about eveything else that I've gone in there for. They even replaced a button for free that they normally would not have.

[Audistic]

Originally Posted by turbota221

Has anyone found a fix for the door rattle on the driver's side with certain bass frequencies? I took my 2009 A5 into the dealership to fix a couple things and they said that they did not hear the rattle. They have been pretty good about eveything else that I've gone in there for. They even replaced a button for free that they normally would not have.

turbota-

I had this same problem, but on my passenger side. After the dealer found nothing even after taking the door apart, I realized later it was coming from the inlay. Here's an easy test. While the bass is playing, use your palm and gently press over the door inlay. If the rattling stops, then that is your problem. For me, I took the inlay out (which is very easy, there is a copy of the service manual instructing how to do this) and on the back I put pieces of Dynamat and the embarrassing rattles were no more. I've suggested this same procedure to a few others and they were able to confirm the same as well. This is one of those jobs where you will do a better job than the dealer. Hope this helps.

[IbiS5]

My driver's side rattles and putting my hands on any part of the door including the window doesn't make it go away. It starts to stop when I roll my driver's side window down 2/3 of the way... Also, bass notes don't trigger the rattle, but the little bumps I have to go over 50 times a day!

[Alkivar]

my solution for the bass rattle was to pop off the door panels... add extra zip ties to the wires... and to add a layer of dynamat to the backs of them.

[denakno]

Originally Posted by Audistic

turbota-

I had this same problem, but on my passenger side. After the dealer found nothing even after taking the door apart, I realized later it was coming from the inlay. Here's an easy test. While the bass is playing, use your palm and gently press over the door inlay. If the rattling stops, then that is your problem. For me, I took the inlay out (which is very easy, there is a copy of the service manual instructing how to do this) and on the back I put pieces of Dynamat and the embarrassing rattles were no more. I've suggested this same procedure to a few others and they were able to confirm the same as well. This is one of those jobs where you will do a better job than the dealer. Hope this helps.

I agree with Audistic. I've got the same issue, the rattle also occurs when driving around 50 mph on rough roads (I've got KW V2). It's not because of the bass, it's the door panel/inlay that is weak for certain vibrations/frequencies of vibrations.

With door panel/inlay I mean the panel/pocket marked with yellow in the attached image.

When I grip and hold this panel the vibrations stop. This goes for all doors, even the small panels in the back.

Audistic: Is it this panel you are talking about?

[A5MD]

I have the same problem with my doors. Its kind of hard to gauge where its coming from since it comes and goes when I go over bumps. I don't listen to music real loud so I can't say its coming form the bass.

[SDS5]

Originally Posted by A5MD

I have the same problem with my doors. Its kind of hard to gauge where its coming from since it comes and goes when I go over bumps. I don't listen to music real loud so I can't say its coming form the bass.

FWIW; I had an annoying door rattle on my S4 - a kind of creaking chaffing sound over every minor bump -it nearly drove me mad. If sounded like a cable or wire inside the door rubbing. To my amazement it turned out to be a dried out door seal - and with a quick application of Gummi-Pflege on the seal the sound went away completely.

you might have this problem or the infamous loose wire - see TSB list for the TSB and the fix.

[SDS5]

Perhaps its this problem, see TSB