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post #31 of 111 Old 23rd January 2017, 09:33 AM
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Thanks for the feedback,

So it doesnt sound like that big a deal afterall to fit.. any ideas how much an ini exhaust place might charge for the snip and fit (ie how long does this aspect really take)?

The big Im concerned about doing this the DIY route is the chassis drilling and then having to prime/paint to avoid corrosion. Electrics Im all good with but even though I've renovated an entire house myself, I just don't fancy drilling my cars Chassis as well as having to take out half the interior (after all boot liners are considered) so would rather give someone else that pleasure. Nobodys mentioned the drilling aspect though, so is this really the case or have I missed something?

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I think you are only looking at about 1 hour to fit actual exhaust and suggest you do the wiring yourself its very easy to do. So around 60 or less.
Dont follow the part about the drill chassis to fit holder as i think its a bit stupid of audi to even suggest that. And no matter what it will rust out one day. The module sits on the left side cubby hole so use cable ties or screw the holder to your mmi rack or cable tie to the loom; whatever is easiest and secure. My cab is very very restricted in the left side yet i managed to find a secure spot for it
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Thanks @morski,

My final question I think for now- if I ordered this but wasnt in a rush per say to get it all up and running, would there be any harm in having the exhaust modifications done first without the wiring? Or should for example the wiring be done first / at the same time?

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No problem at all if you wanted to fit the exhaust first and do wiring later. However the wiring needs to drop down to each of the backboxes from behind the heatshields which have to come off first to enable you to pull the grommet out and fees the cable through.
If your a bit ambidextrous then im sure it can be done but just a heads up.
TBH the wiring is not something you should worry about as it really is very simple and i/we can guide you if you plan to tackle it yourself
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Thanks for the feedback,

So it doesnt sound like that big a deal afterall to fit.. any ideas how much an ini exhaust place might charge for the snip and fit (ie how long does this aspect really take)?

The big Im concerned about doing this the DIY route is the chassis drilling and then having to prime/paint to avoid corrosion. Electrics Im all good with but even though I've renovated an entire house myself, I just don't fancy drilling my cars Chassis as well as having to take out half the interior (after all boot liners are considered) so would rather give someone else that pleasure. Nobodys mentioned the drilling aspect though, so is this really the case or have I missed something?
The exhaust places I called weren't interested as they weren't selling the parts. I had a local mechanic do it and he charged 50+vat, just over an hour and he was happy to be directed by me. Forget about the method of fixing it to the inner wheel arch, I know what you mean - there are a few options for mounting the module. I was able to bolt the frame onto the plastic carrier for the B&O kit but have a look around inside, I'm sure you'll find something.

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No problem at all if you wanted to fit the exhaust first and do wiring later. However the wiring needs to drop down to each of the backboxes from behind the heatshields which have to come off first to enable you to pull the grommet out and fees the cable through.
If your a bit ambidextrous then im sure it can be done but just a heads up.
TBH the wiring is not something you should worry about as it really is very simple and i/we can guide you if you plan to tackle it yourself
I agree - if you do the exhaust first, just poke the two cables through at the same time ie, when you able to remove the heat shields.

Oh... and I bet your patience won't last long and you'll want get it fitted without delay

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After speaking with BigP last week via PM's I decided to go ahead and get one of these. Unfortunately the one thing we hadn't done via PM was discuss price! So when my local Audi agent discounted a then current ebay price by over 100 I was reasonably happy to proceed, thinking I had got a deal. I even managed to get them to discount the fitting price too so to save me messing I booked it in to be completed alongside my next service.

But then this week I received a PM from BigP highlighting the item for sale on ebay for CONSIDERABLY less than the price I had agreed, and as it turns out much closer to the price he had paid!!!

So I swiftly sent my local dealer an email, indicating the much lower price and requested a full refund. Fortunately I was within the 14 days refund window and even more fortunate, it hadn't yet been fitted. So I then made an offer on the item for sale on ebay.

Since then my local dealer has agreed to match my ebay price (plus the postage) which is resulting in me receiving a quite substantial refund. So huge thanks are due to BigP, and if anyone here wants one I suggest you visit ebay asap as one dealer is currently giving these away and other dealers seem happy to price match.

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Out of curiosity, what was the final price supplied and fitted, using the ebay offer?

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OK they quoted 3.5 hours to fit @ the accessory rate of 90P/H = 315 I managed to get a small discount on this rate. I wanted them to do all the work as the car is still under warranty. I am also happy for them to have the stress of removing / not damaging any trim.

The exhaust is on ebay, from Boston Audi @ 250 (Or offer) + 45 p&p = 295. My dealer has matched my offer + postage.

All in it will be supplied, fitted and warranted for a shade under 600, I'm more than happy with that.

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Diameter pipe size???

Hmmmm, did some reading around looking at some of the alternatives to the OEM Audi Active exhaust, you've got Kufatec out there, you've got Cete...

From what guys have said in this thread and reading around on websites/YouTube etc. the Cete active physical sound resonating modules seem to work with other existing exhaust systems provided you can find the space to install one. Whereas the Audi Active Exhaust is part of the rear pipes themselves after the Y pipe...

I'd love to know what size exhaust pipe diameter the Audi Active Sounds exhaust pipes actually are, and what about the exhaust tips... I assume they're the same as stock? Are the black tips replaceable? Any ideas?

I'm THIS close to pulling the trigger and grabbing one of these and then also grabbing a Kufatec or Cete sound module to go with it for more control of the artificial sound... and I'm also super curious how this sound would "blend" together with doing a DPF replacement downpipe or hollowed out DPF... man, I just wish someone had already done this it'd save me so much guessing... or wasted money on experiments!!! LOL
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Well, bit the bullet and just agree'd a price with the seller on ebay! I dont feel I'm actually in a huge rush to fit this weirdly, but wanted to secure the price in case it dissapears (I know I've already paid more than BigP but the seller wouldnt seem to budge).

My local audi said the kits rrp was 850 and couldn't come anywhere near that price so that helped secure the deal!

My local mechanic seemed to think he was capable of doing the exhaust work and charges 45 per hour, although he sounded dubious when I mentioned from feedback it sounded like it was an hours work- not that he's seen the instructions yet.

Watch this space, all I need now is a spare weekend to get the wiring in when it turns up!

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, it helped alot and probably saved me money in the long wrong from splashing out on an aftermarket system that would have removed the OEM ness I wanted to keep for eventual resale. The only thing bugging me... is I'm still tempted by the Reiger RS5 rear splitter/diffser... think buying this has just removed any chance of that but hey- I guess thats just another saving! ha
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Very happy to see a thread being helpful

You could probably have your exhaust guy modify the tips to have them fit the larger Rieger style diffuser should you want that cosmetic upgrade later so I wouldn't say you're any worse off.

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This is the kit....



The tips appear to be the same size as the originals, just in black chrome.


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I am so pleased I started this discussion thread, it has helped me massively and saved me a fair few 's too.

BigP (Peter) helped to convince me, via PM's, to go with this upgrade. But he didn't stop there. He alerted me of the items being sold for much less than I had previously spotted, and much less than the discount I had acquired from my dealer. Again a massive thank you from me to you Peter. If we had forum GOLD stars you would deserve one.

I truly hope that forum members, via this thread, were the ones who managed to get both the units for sale this week. I also hope that this thread assists anyone in the future who may be looking into is upgrade.

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I juuuuuuust missed out!!! Even spoke to the Audi guys this morning to double check compatibility and also that it didnt void a service plan because it's genuine OEM retrofit... Logged back on eBay during my lunch break and they were gone! LOL I guess it went to audi owners more deserving than me

Still, I am not bitter, I couldn't agree more this was such a brilliant thread and that gold star is deffo deserved!!!

I'll guess I'll just have to join the dark side of the force and go for the dpf delete .......
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I'm so pleased to read that at least a couple of you have had a result and thanks very much for the kinds words Barmybob. I'll keep an eye out for you Unsilence, hopefully one will turn up - but as I said above, knowing what I know now I would have emailed as many dealers as possible to find one geting dusty in stock and get a decent price.

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PS there must be some 2.0tdi owners out there so I can clear the space in my garage currently taken up with the converter Y pipe kit
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My local mechanic seemed to think he was capable of doing the exhaust work and charges 45 per hour, although he sounded dubious when I mentioned from feedback it sounded like it was an hours work- not that he's seen the instructions yet.
I asked two mobile mechanics about it and sent them the instructions. One said 2-3 hours where the other said let's see how we go. Having studied the instructions and got to know the system a little better after installing the electrics, I told the second guy what steps to take, helped manage the heavier parts and he charged 60 Inc VAT which I assumed was an hour and quarter.

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I don't have ADS factory fit but DIY enabled. I've yet to code the convenience module (I'm guessing) so that I get the config options appear under Set Individual. Does anyone have factory fit ADS with this exhaust and if so what are the options provided for Engine/Exhaust Sound by default e.g. Comfort, Dyanmic and middle ground option...? Thanks.

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I asked two mobile mechanics about it and sent them the instructions. One said 2-3 hours where the other said let's see how we go. Having studied the instructions and got to know the system a little better after installing the electrics, I told the second guy what steps to take, helped manage the heavier parts and he charged 60 Inc VAT which I assumed was an hour and quarter.
Oh, just a few other things:

1. Where the existing Y pipe is punched for the cutting location, the punches are quite deep which can made the pipe cutter veer off track, with the danger of an uneven cut. He bought two cutters specially for the job (bless 'im) - the first just had one or two cutting wheels (useless) the second had several more and I suggested he really got the ratchet tight and it worked ok

2. The tips are fixed by 3 rivets each so make sure you position the exhaust at the correct orientation while it's off the car - being 3 it's unlikely you'll put them on upside down but I thought it's easy to make a mistake here if you rush it

3. One thing that I'm not 100% happy with was the left tip is a few mm off centre now, after a week or two of use - I'm hoping that relaxing, repositoning and retightening that particlular box's clamp will do the job, as I don't fancy getting right under and adjusting the whole kit again

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I've got full ADS (steering, suspention, gearbox etc) so when this gets fitted, I'll let you know the results! Big thanks BigP, I couldnt get it the same price as you despite my best efforts, but wasnt too far off in the end. For those interested I've paid 220 + 45 shipping.
@unsilence, just because theyre out of stock doesnt mean they cant get them again. I'd suggest giving them a call- theyre sheffield Audi as detailed in the item details. give them a call, say you want one, see what they come back with. It never hurts to ask!

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I've got full ADS (steering, suspention, gearbox etc) so when this gets fitted, I'll let you know the results! Big thanks BigP, I couldnt get it the same price as you despite my best efforts, but wasnt too far off in the end. For those interested I've paid 220 + 45 shipping.
@unsilence, just because theyre out of stock doesnt mean they cant get them again. I'd suggest giving them a call- theyre sheffield Audi as detailed in the item details. give them a call, say you want one, see what they come back with. It never hurts to ask!
Thanks Grangey and pleased to help. I think you got a great price though - don't forget that mine was an auction rather than BIN/offer and I was just lucky enough that no one else bid on it. And to think I exchanged emails directly with the parts guy the week before and they wouldn't go below 360! After deducting eBay and paypal fees, and delivery for two large boxes, I calculate they received 170 net in the end.

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I've got full ADS (steering, suspention, gearbox etc) so when this gets fitted, I'll let you know the results! Big thanks BigP, I couldnt get it the same price as you despite my best efforts, but wasnt too far off in the end. For those interested I've paid 220 + 45 shipping.
I too have the full ADS, from what I've learnt / seen ECO, Comfort, Auto and Dynamic will all be pre-set. An engine sound adjustment tab will appear under the "Individual" section, as is the case with the other ADS settings.

I would echo Grangey's comment regarding talking to other dealers. I was shocked at how quickly my local dealer matched the price and re-funded my card.

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@unsilence there's still one in stock....?

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I guess someone had made an offer and had it held. When I made my offer the number available dropped to 1 but when I retracted my offer, after my local dealer agreed to match, it went back up to two.

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AAaaaaaah looks like I just missed the boat AGAIN!!! LOL But thanks so much Grangey and Barmybob for looking out for a new forum member... I'll just need to make sure I have my finger ready on the trigger with my eBay app next time!
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OK they quoted 3.5 hours to fit @ the accessory rate of 90P/H = 315 I managed to get a small discount on this rate. I wanted them to do all the work as the car is still under warranty. I am also happy for them to have the stress of removing / not damaging any trim.

The exhaust is on ebay, from Boston Audi @ 250 (Or offer) + 45 p&p = 295. My dealer has matched my offer + postage.

All in it will be supplied, fitted and warranted for a shade under 600, I'm more than happy with that.
Hi Barmybob - when's it booked in for?

Dark grey satin wrap and wheel refurbish is next on the bucket list for me (I should have gone for Daytona )

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Car is going in for the work this week

My previous A5 was a black one, I thought about a wrap but decided to change the whole car for Daytona one instead

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My previous A5 was a black one, I thought about a wrap but decided to change the whole car for Daytona one instead
Awesome Bob! Please post some before after clips pretty please!!!
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Two very large boxes just got delivered to me

Planning on attempting the wiring next weekend so will be interesting to see how that goes. Look forward to hearing how yours went @Barmybob !
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Two very large boxes just got delivered to me

Planning on attempting the wiring next weekend so will be interesting to see how that goes. Look forward to hearing how yours went @Barmybob !
Awesome Grangey, exciting stuff!!! I took the advice you guys gave... rang up Audi and they had one more unit coming! They said they will hold it for me and give me a call once it arrives... let's hope I can get it for the same steal... but boy, if it does arrive and I can grab it, I owe you guys some fish'n'chips

Assuming I can get my hands on one too, I saw the installation instructions and some of it seems sooo vague, plus it's a left-hand drive vehicle in there, I'd be proper nervous about removing parts of the trim!

I may have to get some of my car enthusiast brother in laws to give me a hand and make a day of doing the electric wiring bits... let's see...

I wonder how the silencers compare to the bare-bones silencers on the stock 3.0 TDI exhaust... been thinking about maybe getting them gutted out too so it acts more like a straight pipe but let's not get ahead of myself!
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