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Old 27th July 2009, 11:26 PM   #1
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There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding variable servicing. The A5 has an Oil Change interval and a Service Interval. the difference in the 2 seems to be only a few thousand miles, so why have the 2. Is it that Audi wants you in the workshop more often or is there a valid engineering reason for this. My previous A4 had just one interval that equated to the Service interval on my A5.
I have had different dealers tell me to ignore the Oil Change and just go off the Service Interval and others have said the opposite. It just seems to be a backward step if you have an Oil change and then have to go back a couple of months later for the Main service
Is there and Audi Tech out there that can give us the definative answer to this



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Oil change - between 15000 km to 30000 km (counted, depending on ride conditions) - only oil change, nothing else

Service - every 24 months, service work specified in service book



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Just had my first service at around 19000 miles.

Service interval screen on MMI after service showed next oil change in 9100 miles and full service in 18900 miles.

I asked about this and the dealer stated that the oil change frequency at 9100 miles may step out slightlly as this is controlled by sensors monitoring oil condition so the 9100 to the next oil change is a worst case scenario. i.e it may not count down 1 mile for evry mile I do.

As it happens it seems to be counting down on a mile per mile basis and i'll be due an oil change within 4 months!

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The first oil change is typically shown at around 9000 miles on variable with around 18k being the service.



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Just had my first service at around 19000 miles.

Service interval screen on MMI after service showed next oil change in 9100 miles and full service in 18900 miles.

I asked about this and the dealer stated that the oil change frequency at 9100 miles may step out slightlly as this is controlled by sensors monitoring oil condition so the 9100 to the next oil change is a worst case scenario. i.e it may not count down 1 mile for evry mile I do.

As it happens it seems to be counting down on a mile per mile basis and i'll be due an oil change within 4 months!

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I thought the service was every 9k though, so 19,000 miles seems a bit out? Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick?



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The point is it is variable based on driving style and conditions. 19K miles between oil changes is possible in my experience and currently my MMI is showing same mileage for both oil and service. Obviously if the oil becomes due and the service is showing as due in, say, 2k miles or so then it makes sense to get the done together.



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There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding variable servicing. The A5 has an Oil Change interval and a Service Interval. the difference in the 2 seems to be only a few thousand miles, so why have the 2. Is it that Audi wants you in the workshop more often or is there a valid engineering reason for this. My previous A4 had just one interval that equated to the Service interval on my A5.
I have had different dealers tell me to ignore the Oil Change and just go off the Service Interval and others have said the opposite. It just seems to be a backward step if you have an Oil change and then have to go back a couple of months later for the Main service
Is there and Audi Tech out there that can give us the definative answer to this
Stick to the Oil Change interval if it is a tad sooner than the Service milestone. I wouldn't risk running the engine on oil that is no good anymore. Moreover, if your oil change indication is later than the Servive do not break the Service milestone because you may have warranty issues.

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The point is it is variable based on driving style and conditions. 19K miles between oil changes is possible in my experience and currently my MMI is showing same mileage for both oil and service. Obviously if the oil becomes due and the service is showing as due in, say, 2k miles or so then it makes sense to get the done together.
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yep.....this seem right. Before my 1st service oil change and service interval were within 400 miles of eachother..........

however

...............after the first service was complete the MMI states next oil change is due at 9100 miles with service in 18900 miles.

Will be interested to hear what others have experienced after first service.
Why would the original oil be capable of nearly 19000 miles, and after first service when the oil should have been changed, you can only get 9000 miles before next oil change. It does not make sense to me! Surely it should be 19000 again!!!

Anything obvious im missing or am I just thick
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...............after the first service was complete the MMI states next oil change is due at 9100 miles with service in 18900 miles.
There was an error in the software on some A/S5s which equalised the first oil service with the main service. I believe a TSB was issued to correct this but unless your car had been in for something, it wouldnt have got done.

The first oil change is at around 9000 and service around 18000. This is why you get the confusion. Some show the 18000 and some show the 9000.



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I believe you are quoting the Fixed Service intervals. On LongLife Service regime the oil change is still variable and can go out to 20K miles. I quote directly from Audi on the LongLife Service Regime

Service Intervals:
Oil-change Service Variable to a maximum of every 20,000*
miles/2 years
Inspection Service Fixed to every 20,000* miles/3 years, then
every 20,000* miles/2 years thereafter

*as indicated by the service display

So it is entirely possible the oil change and inspection service could arrive at the same time depending on driving style and conditions. LongLife regime is only recommended with the following style:

Mileage: More than 30 miles per day
Type of journey: Motorway and main road driving. Mainly
longer distance journeys. Constant speeds
Conditions: Normal engine loading – e.g. with little or no
towing, with little or no hill climbs. Normal
vehicle loading
Driving style: Moderate acceleration, moderate braking,
engine revs mainly below 3,000

Which happens to exactly match mine hence my variable indicator still showing oil change will be aroind 19K miles.



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Now I'm confused. My car has done nearly 11000 miles in 9 months. MMI showing next service due in 810 days and oil in 445 days both showing due in 9100 miles.

Seems good to me especially as I have a free service!!

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Well thats all clear (as mud) now
I'm just going to go for smewhere in between the two figures



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Can anyone tell me how much a 20k service will cost me?



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Can anyone tell me how much a 20k service will cost me?
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should be around about 260
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this long life service business, could I request it from audi then on my next service since I've just had the car done again today, averaging 9k between services. The miles I do I'll spend as much time in Oxford Audi as I will sat on the M1.



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this long life service business, could I request it from audi then on my next service since I've just had the car done again today, averaging 9k between services. The miles I do I'll spend as much time in Oxford Audi as I will sat on the M1.
If yours is showing 9000 as the service interval then its wrong. Oil change at 9000 but service should be longer.



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If yours is showing 9000 as the service interval then its wrong. Oil change at 9000 but service should be longer.
shall check it in the morning, but so far 9k and 19k the warning has come on asking for a service. if it now reads more like 39k I'll be delighted. If it's not, I'll take it back to Audi!



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Mine's in today. Done 15K8 and oil service overdue by 7 days. As the full service was only 3K miles away, I asked Audi Sheffield (Gilders) if they would also do the 1st variable full service to which they agreed. Always been accommodating they have.



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I have come to the conclusion that having 2 schedules, Oil and Main is bol!o*ks. Both services include an oil change so why would the longlife oil need to be changed so often. the difference in Oil and Main seems to vary from about 9000 miles to just a few thousand. Longlife oil in modern Audis should be good for between 15000 and 20000 miles.
Just a cynical ploy to get more money out of us I think



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I have come to the conclusion that having 2 schedules, Oil and Main is bol!o*ks. Both services include an oil change so why would the longlife oil need to be changed so often. the difference in Oil and Main seems to vary from about 9000 miles to just a few thousand. Longlife oil in modern Audis should be good for between 15000 and 20000 miles.
Just a cynical ploy to get more money out of us I think
Many people on the west side of the of the big pond still believes that oil change should be done every 3000 miles.



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Many people on the west side of the of the big pond still believes that oil change should be done every 3000 miles.
Which is obviously too frequent with modern engines and long-life synthetic oil. However, I would never want to go 20K between changes. I'm not even comfortable with the 10K interval recommended by Audi in the U.S.



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Which is obviously too frequent with modern engines and long-life synthetic oil. However, I would never want to go 20K between changes. I'm not even comfortable with the 10K interval recommended by Audi in the U.S.
10k miles interval should be fine as long as you use synthetic oil.



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shall check it in the morning, but so far 9k and 19k the warning has come on asking for a service. if it now reads more like 39k I'll be delighted. If it's not, I'll take it back to Audi!
Oh yeah, incidentally my service interval now reads every 20k so I'm happy.



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10k miles interval should be fine as long as you use synthetic oil.
Oh, I know that. I'm just not comfortable with it.



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Does anyone know how to reset the Service Light on this? I changed mine out in the garage but the countdown is still counting down in days instead of resetting it back to every 9k miles in soso days



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Does anyone know how to reset the Service Light on this? I changed mine out in the garage but the countdown is still counting down in days instead of resetting it back to every 9k miles in soso days
There is an option in the MMI to reset the service interval.

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I recently had my first oil change and service at 19k, my next service and oil changes are now set at another 19k.
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How can you tell from the MMI whether the car has been set up for fixed or variable schedules.

Presently the MMI is showing a number of miles to next service / a number of days.

Did request a variable schedule, but have a worry that it has been set to the fixed, with the number of days being quoted also.

Can anyone clarify for me ?



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No you can't changed it in MMI, only with VAS or VCDS.



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