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Lightbulb MMI 3G+/3GP navigation 6.24.2 and firmware updates - currently 2017

Links to the latest versions of firmware and map update (with activator)

Map & activator (activator works for both 2016 and 2017 maps):
8R0 051 884 ED - 6.24.2 2017 MMI 3G High/Plus Europe 2017 [Link on Mega (use 7z/7zip to open the files)]
8R0 060 884 DF – Activator [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega]

8R0 051 884 DF – 6.22.4 2016 MMI 3G High/Plus Europe 2016 [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega (use 7z/7zip to open the files)]


Firmware:
Audi A1 [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega]
• 8R0 906 961 EC – HN+_EU_AU210_K0900 (A1) SVM: 3GPEU900A1

Audi A4-A5-Q5-Q7
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 - Stock firmware
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0942 - Stock firmware
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 Modified firmware - Green Menu enabled / User Defined Mode / No Sound systems
• HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0942 Modified firmware - Green Menu enabled / User Defined Mode / No Sound systems

Audi Q3-A6-A7-A8
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0900 - Stock firmware
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0942 - Stock firmware
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0900 Modified firmware - Green Menu enabled / User Defined Mode / No Sound systems
• HN+R_EU_AU_K0942 Modified firmware - Green Menu enabled / User Defined Mode / No Sound systems

Manual:
3G_3GP.pdf [Link on Mega || Spanish translation thanks to homarc || 2017 MAP Update thanks to homarc]

Cheers

In order new 2017 map to fit in 32GB SD do not copy the following folders
pkgdb/LIT
pkgdb/LIT2
pkgdb/LIT3
You might need GEM (Green engineering menu) activated and use User Defined Mode and manually select all that is under AUDI_MMI3G_ECE if it's not selected.


Warning - FW update K0900 is removing the "Emergency Update" option from the "Green Menu". There is some info that this can be fixed but i dont have 3GP unit so i cannot personally try the script that i have created for that
So if there is someone willing to try it just let me know.

• Emergency menu activation on K0900 firmware. [ Only for A5OC ]
• To enable the Green Menu you could use VCDS, VAS or the following script [ Green menu activation ]
• 03623 [ 03623 Remove ]
1. Unzip it on the SD card.
2. Put the sd card in the MMI.
3. When prompted press the center knob.
4. After the script is done you will see confirmation screen.
5. Remove the SD card and reboot MMI

Do not use MAC to unpack and/or copy the files to the SD card.

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The problem:
I've tried to update my firmware (MMI 3G+) to K0767 and got the following error:

GEMMI_nav:0 error code 141
I could only access "Retry" choice (but update kept blocking at 5% with the same error) or "Back" button that was useless
Unable to do anything else, even the Reset procedure didn't work!

Root cause:
This is a file corruption error, the MMI didn't like what it found on the SD card.
Because I'm a stupid software engineer who thinks he knows best, I didn't trust the forums and copied the files from my mac onto the SD card (using command line to clean-up the .Trashes/ and alike folders)
So this is the lesson: DO NOT COPY FROM A MAC
Sub-lesson: better learn from other's mistakes than redo the experience...

Solution:
As stated previously, even a MMI reset procedure didn't allow me to get out of the error.
So I went to my neighbour's Windows PC, reformatted the SD card and extracted the RAR archive onto it.
Back to the car, update went fine and completed successfully after 30 minutes

Hope this experience will help some fellow here...
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LESSONS LEARNED - NEVER USE MAC OS (or Unix, Linux based OS) for unpack and copy map or firmware data into SD card. Also always format SD card in Windows OS. USE ONLY WINDOWS FOR UNPACK/COPY!!!

I had to upgrade Firmware as well. I could not load map data even they were copied in windows. It means that also Firmware was corrupted.
I found cca 10 000 hidden files on Firmware SD card. Dangerous is that Firmware seemed to be OK all the time but it was not and I could destroy whole MMI
(Imagine that FPGA or EEPROM is burned with some hidden apple .bin file....).
Q&A section
Here are some of the questions raised by the forum members about the update process that I might failed to explain in the manual.

Q. Do i need VCDS to do the update?
A. No, you need VCDS only to clear some errors after the update but the MMI will function correctly even if you don’t clear them out.

Q. I have a Bang & Olufsen sound system not a Bose. Does this also mean that i need to exclude it?
A. Yes, better not to update the DSP system.

Q. Currently no updates for North America?
A. Not for now.

Q. I have mmi 3gp , version p0XXX can i go straight to k0900?
A. Yes.

Q. Have found the activation script and it includes "2380_00040009.fsc". This should be changed according to manual Page 31 to the MAC address specifically to my MMI or should I continue to use the "2380_00040009.fsc" as stated in the manual page 18.
A. Leave the filename as it is now.

Q. The 2380_00040009.fsc file contains a VIN number. Should that be changed to my VIN number?
A. No, do not attempt the edit the fsc file.

Q. Will my VIN be visible and correct in the MMI
A. Yes.

Q. Only thing is that my Google Maps option is greyed out... any hints?
A. Reinstall the GEMMI_nav component from the K0900.

Q. 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version - How can i solve this ?
A. Restart the MMI and remove the key from ignition then put it back in. The error should change from 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version to 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management.

Q. What does the new firmware bring in terms of added functionality?
A. Not much, apart from K0770/K0767 fixing the issues with the SIM data connection and Bluetooth usage at the same time.

Q. What are 03276 and 03175, will they affect the MMI in anyway and how can they be avoided?
A. 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management will appear every time when the software is updated w/o VAS connection to the VW/Audi servers.
03175 - Invalid Data Set will appear when updating the map w/o deleting it first. Sometimes this helps to avoid that error.
They will not affect the functionality or the sound characteristics of the MMI.

Q. Is there a way to use used defined mode w/o "Green Menu"?
A. Yes. In file metainfo2.txt in the root folder if you remove the line "MetafileChecksum=XXXXXX" and add
EnableUserDefinedSWDLMode = "true"
skipMetaCRC = "true"
the you will be able to use the user mode w/o the green menu.

Warning - At no stage I take responsibility of your actions or any of my notes that may mislead you. Therefore, and like my all other documents I say “use at your own risk”.

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Hey guys, I just got myself an Audi A5 Sportback from 2013. I checked and I believe this is still running the MMI firmware and maps from then as well.

The MMI version information:
Media version: HN+_EU_AU3G_P0612
Nav. database version:
8R0060884AR ECE 6.15.5

I believe this is the right topic for my version, however can anyone confirm this and the best way to get to this latest version? As this is the first time for me doing this and I only just got the car, I don't have the VCDS cable or software yet. From what I read it will take a long time to actually install the maps and firmwares, which means either the car will be running for a long time, or I'd need to get a charger for the battery to ensure it doesn't run out.

Which leads me to the next question.. Buying a cable with the software (a proper one and not a knock-off with grey area software) and either buying a charger or running the car the whole day, why shouldnt I just get this done at a dealer/garage? As I've never done a thing like this, I would like to get to know more about it as I am interested, but currently it looks like there are a lot of additional costs involved no matter which way I get the latest maps.

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Well, you don't have VCDS cable and you have never done such kind of things I will suggest to you two options. Either find someone local to you that have experience in this area or go to the dealer. The manual in this topic is complete and tested many times but to be honest there is always room for error. Is it the right way to do it using the info found here .... well define "right". It is illegal if you ask Audi.


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Nah, that's ok, i didn't mean the right thing in that way. I already knew that

I meant right more in a money and time spending way. I was thinking about finding someone local as well. So I'll probably pop in a post in the UK forum part to see if there is anyone nearby enough.

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Ah i got it wrong then about the right way
The rest ... if you can find someone local than good if you cannot i can guide remotely...
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I will highly recommended the Congo he is right man to do that kind of jobs!!!!!!!! Thanks Congo

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Anyone in the Netherlands that has experience with this? I want to upgrade my 2014 Audi A5 Sportback MMI but have never done it before and don't want to brick my unit.
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Anyone in the Netherlands that has experience with this? I want to upgrade my 2014 Audi A5 Sportback MMI but have never done it before and don't want to brick my unit.
yes, I have and it works
are you sure you have a MMI 3G and not a MMI 3G+ ??
I ask this, as you car is 2014.
show us yr version info.
is it HNav or HN+ ??

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yes, I have and it works
are you sure you have a MMI 3G and not a MMI 3G+ ??
I ask this, as you car is 2014.
show us yr version info.
is it HNav or HN+ ??
Not sure how to tell if it is a MMI 3G or MMI 3G+.
But I think a MMI 3G+ since I have Audi Connect with Google Maps too.

According to the MMI info it is a HN+, see attached image.
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According to the MMI info it is a HN+
this is definitively a MMI 3G+
which means you can't do the activation by yourself.

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this is definitively a MMI 3G+
which means you can't do the activation by yourself.
This means I have to use Keldo's activator for example?
So to upgrade my MMI I have to first upgrade the firmware, then upgrade the map software and then activate the unit?, but which version do I need? And is it also possible to only upgrade the firmware and do the maps later?

• 8R0 906 961 BK – HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0517_4 (A4/A5/Q5/Q7) SVM:3GPEU517
• 8R0 906 961 CA – HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0612_2 (A4/A5/Q5/Q7) SVM:3GPEU612AU3G(w/o SIM)
• 8R0 906 961 CE – HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0614_2 (A4/A5/Q5/Q7) SVM:3GPEU614AU3G(w SIM)
• 8R0 906 961 DH – HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0767 (A4/A5/Q5/Q7) SVM: 3GPEU767AU3G
• 8R0 906 961 EB – HN+_EU_AU3G_K_0900 (A4/A5/Q5/Q7) SVM: 3GPEU900AU3G
• 8R0 906 961 AK – 3G_DAB_K0097 (A4/A5/Q5/Q7) SVM: 3GPRU0097
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It won't be easy because you have Bose sound system ask Congo he can help

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It won't be easy because you have Bose sound system ask Congo he can help
Thanks I will ask him. Just to be sure, I have a Bang & Olufsen sound system not a Bose. Does this also mean it won't be easy?
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I think it has to be done in emergency mode

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This same as the bose system

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this is definitively a MMI 3G+
which means you can't do the activation by yourself.
Does it?
reading the guide (downloaded from the OP) it seems to me to say you can create your own activator....am I misunderstanding?

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Np mate,
the activator will work ... tested many times

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Hey Guys, just want to confirm a few things here.... All the files/maps above are for Europe correct?

Currently no updates for North America? ...aside from that, I would think I have the latest versions on my 2016 S5?:

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Yes it's for Europe. NAR firmware you have the latest will check about the map but I think is latest too.


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Yes it's for Europe. NAR firmware you have the latest will check about the map but I think is latest too.


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Hello.i have mmi 3gp , version p0530 and i update the firmwware
straight to k0900, but i didn't see any diferrences .audi connect dont appear after update. Why ? I read on other forums .. if you update your firmware audi connect icon will appear. I did something wrong? Thank you
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Does your unit have SIM slot (according to the PM's you send me you don't have SIM slot)?
Was Audi Connect active before the update?

Anyway, it's possible to activate some ONLINE features on unit w/o SIM.
Contact ravxvx he has done it on his unit.

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Hello Guys..... I would really appreciate some help on this topic. I have an A4 2013 import from Japan. I live in the caribbean and as such the radio frequency bandwidth is different from Japans. I was doing some reading and from what I gathered I believe that if i upgrade/change my firmware the k-box would also update so as to allow me to get radio frequency bandwidth the same as the USA. Can anyone confirm this?

Also I have the following installed in the car currently

HN+JP_AU3G_P0271
NAV DATABASE: 7614

I dont think there are maps available for Trinidad and Tobago.... so I dont care too much for the maps. But I would like to listen to the radio. Will the links you guys have in this post work with my car to update the MMI?
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Hello, sorry for late response. My mmi is without sim. I just updated and i have an error on vcds . Error 03623 invalid security/release. What is this?
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Firmware update

Hi guys,

Congo, I'm a little confused as to the firmware updates, I can see that the maps can be update for the MMI 3G High which I have but what about the firmware? At the moment my version information is as follows:

Software version: HNav_EU_K0257_5D1
Nav. database version: 8R0060884CH ECE 6.20.4

Would I still be able to update my firmware to these ones in here?

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Hi THCFreak
You have MMI 3G HIGH so use Adrian's topic:
MMI 3G navigation 6.22.4 and firmware updates - currently 2016

You don't need to update the software - you are up to date. Just update the MAP and activate it.

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Coding of STG 46 Halogen to LED tail lights A4/8K A5/8T A6/C7 A7/4G || Turning off start-stop system
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US Questions

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Does anyone know if this activator will work in a US car?

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Not sure, the US and EU maps are not the same.

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Coding of STG 46 Halogen to LED tail lights A4/8K A5/8T A6/C7 A7/4G || Turning off start-stop system
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I think I can find a US map but not sure about the activation. I will keep looking.
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