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Links to the latest versions of firmware and map update (with activator)

Map & activator:
4G0060884S (MMI 3G Basic Europe 2016 DVD) [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega ]

DVD1 East: Germany, Lichtenstein, Austria, Switzerland, Albania, Bosnia- Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Italy, Croatia, Corsica, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuanian, Macedonia, Moldavia, Montenegro, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Sweden, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Hungary, Vatican City, Belarus
DVD2 West : Germany, Lichtenstein, Austria, Switzerland, Andorra, Belgium, France, Gibraltar, Great Britain, Ireland, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain

Firmware:
MMI 3G BASIC A4-A5-Q5-A6-Q7 [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega]
• 8R0 906 961 AA – BNav_EU_K0031_2_D1 (SVM: 3GBEU031)
• 8R0 906 961 AH – BNav_EU_K0070_2_D1 (SVM: 3GBEU070)
• 8R0 906 961 BD – BNav_EU_K0206_2_D1 (SVM: 3GBEU206)
• 8R0 906 961 DK – BNav_EU_K0257_2_D1 (SVM: 3GBEU257)
• 8R0 906 961 DP – BNav_EU_K0260_1_D1 (SVM: 3GBEU260)
• 8R0 906 961 AL – 3G_DAB_K0098 (SVM: 3GRU0098)
• 8R0 906 961 BC – BTHS_0400

If your firmware version is bellow K0257 then do K0257 followed by K0260. If you are at K0257 do only K0260.

Manual:
3G_BASIC.pdf [Link on cloud.mail.ru || Link on Mega]

Q&A section
Here are some of the questions raised by the forum members about the update process that I might failed to explain in the manual.

Q. Do i need VCDS to do the update?
A. No, you need VCDS only to clear some errors after the update but the MMI will function correctly even if you don’t clear them out.

Q. I have a Bang & Olufsen sound system not a Bose. Does this also mean that i need to exclude it?
A. Yes, better not to update the DSP system.

Q. Currently no updates for North America?
A. Not for now.

Q. I have mmi 3g , version p0XXX can i go straight to k0260?
A. Yes.

Q. 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version - How can i solve this ?
A. Restart the MMI and remove the key from ignition then put it back in. The error should change from 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version to 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management.

Q. What are 03276 and 03175, will they affect the MMI in anyway and how can they be avoided?
A. 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management will appear every time when the software is updated w/o VAS connection to the VW/Audi servers.
03175 - Invalid Data Set will appear when updating the map w/o deleting it first. Sometimes this helps to avoid that error.
They will not affect the functionality or the sound characteristics of the MMI.

Q. Is there a way to use used defined mode w/o "Green Menu"?
A. Yes. In file metainfo2.txt in the root folder if you remove the line "MetafileChecksum=XXXXXX" and add
EnableUserDefinedSWDLMode = "true"
skipMetaCRC = "true"
the you will be able to use the user mode w/o the green menu.

Warning - At no stage I take responsibility of your actions or any of my notes that may mislead you. Therefore, and like my all other documents I say “use at your own risk”.

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Thanx

Thank you congo, for the clear thread subject and the BNAV update!
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Hello Congo

Thanks for a very good thread
I have updated my MMI 3G Basis to version 260 without any problems, and downloaded map 2016 from both links, but I can't seem to unfold the folders in the right way.
The first West map (001) gets downloaded in Winrar, but the other two (002 and 003) doesn't.
Do you have a manual that can show me how to download the files?
What am I doing wrong?
Can I put East and West maps on the same SD card?

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Hey Congo,

thanks for the great instructions etc.

one question though, I have the Bnav with DAB and Bang and Olufsen, does this mean I have to do anything different or is just as per the guide?

I'm currently showing as..

Software - BNav_EU_P0054_D1
Nav. Dbase version - 4G0919884J ECE 5.12.4

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It's better to exclude the B&O from the upgrade (look at the guide for 3GP - Bose section ) for the DAB I will look to see if I have separate firmware. Odd configuration though, never saw B&O with basic nav there is a chance the bass to become less powerful after the upgrade if you don't exclude it.


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Thanks again Congo!

I'm waiting for a new SD card, once that arrives I'll go down the user defined route as per the guide.

Unless you kindly find another version in the meantime.
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On the link from above you can find the following folder 8R0906961AL (3G_DAB_K0098) this is additional update for the DAB radio - i'm not sure if it's needed.
For the BO you either use the user defined mode or buy one 4E0973802 and before the update make a bypass of the B&O - during the update you wont have music but i think that is not a problem.

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Just finished updating, I couldn't see an option to exclude the B&O so I took a chance and went for it and after correcting the fault codes (as per the guide) I'm all up to date, with no errors via vcds and B&O and DAB working

Much appreciated Congo!
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The option was supposed to be available as in the manual but anyway good for you. The problem with B&O is sometimes reduced bass after update.


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Confirmation?

Hi Congo,
I've just found this thread while searching for firmware updates for my A6 Avant C6, which has MMI 3G Basic (Low).
All the indications here suggest that the firmware files you have posted are the same for my system as for the A5 but before I go ahead and start the update process, could you please offer any reassurance that I am correct in this assumption?
My biggest fear is that I'll brick the MMI!
Thanks in advance.

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Yep, the firmware is for 3G Basic system regardless of the car
Just be careful if you have Bose - excluded it from the upgrade. The info is in the manual.
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Thank you Congo!

I have successfully completed the first update to K0023, which went very well.

However, I now need my friend to come back with his VAGCOM to re-enable the "Green Menu" as it seemed to disappear after the first update, so it seems as if I will need to re-enable it after each increment!

If I just remove the Bose element from the update files in the folder, would that work?

One other question: I noticed that the title for the K0260 firmware does not include A6 in the list (A4-A5-Q5-Q7). Does this mean this update is not applicable?

Thanks again.

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In file metainfo2.txt in the root folder if you remove the line "MetafileChecksum=XXXXXX" and add
EnableUserDefinedSWDLMode = "true"
skipMetaCRC = "true"
the you will be able to use the user mode w/o the green menu.

I'm not sure about deleting the Bose/B&O specific files.

K0260 should be ok for A6 too - as i said it's hardware specific. There is no other version of K0260.

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In file metainfo2.txt in the root folder if you remove the line "MetafileChecksum=XXXXXX" and add
EnableUserDefinedSWDLMode = "true"
skipMetaCRC = "true"
the you will be able to use the user mode w/o the green menu.

I'm not sure about deleting the Bose/B&O specific files.

K0260 should be ok for A6 too - as i said it's hardware specific. There is no other version of K0260.
Thank you!

What about the metainfo2.txt within the "1" and "2" folders? There is a [common] section within those too.

What happens if the Component Protection is triggered? Can it be resolved with VAG COM?
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metainfo2.txt within other folders don't need this.
If for some reason CP is triggered then it could be removed only by dealer.
There are cases that during software upgrade CP is triggered and then disappears.
If you have a module that was not originally in your car and that module have CP feature then ... only dealer.

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Once again, thank you!

I have just completed updating all the different firmware versions and I'm happy to say it all went without issue.

I did notice that the Bose update option never once showed in the list of components to be updated. In fact, only a very small number of items actually were. Nevertheless it all seems to be working.

I'm just burning a DVD with the EU West map, so hopefully this will go just as smoothly.

Incidentally, may I make a suggestion for future updates? If you modify the metainfo2.txt file to enable the User Defined option, wouldn't that make life a whole lot easier for owners that don't have access to a VAGCOM to enable the (dangerous) Green Menu?

Thanks again for your help.
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Incidentally, may I make a suggestion for future updates? If you modify the metainfo2.txt file to enable the User Defined option, wouldn't that make life a whole lot easier for owners that don't have access to a VAGCOM to enable the (dangerous) Green Menu?
I agree with you and maybe i have to do it but ... it's always a question of time I need to change and re-upload the files, but i have them only on my personal pc .. at home. With two kids waiting at home you can imagine how busy my evenings are And they can be like the devil some times. But will do as soon as i have some time free for that. Currently all my free time is going in hacking MMI and Radio units so they can be converted from US to EU

p.s. About the green menu there are some scripts that can activate it too but i didn't tested them Unfortunately i don't have time for everything.

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Question Update sequence from P0054 ?

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I have a 2011 A6 C6 currently running version P0054 & MU Software 0147. Do I start with update version K0070 and go through this and all the further updates up to K0260?

On another post I read that K0257 was a cumulative update, is this correct or is it safer to go through all the updates one by one ?

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Yep K0257 was a cumulative though i have never done it that way but i know people are going straight to it.
Are you sure that you have Basic nav?
I think that you have HNav_EU_P0054 which means MMI 3G High and the correct topic for you is :
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Thanks for your reply. I only got the car a few days ago previously had a 2008 A6 with 2G . But this one hasn't got the joystick on the jog wheel which I thought meant it was basic version. What's the best way to check for definite?
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Press Setup>Settings>Version Info and post what you see.
You can either take a picture or write down the text.

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Press Setup>Settings>Version Info and post what you see.
You can either take a picture or write down the text.
Thanks I've attached pictures of the Version Info and a picture of the part number from the current DVD case in case that helps.

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Can you confirm that these are all the firmwares I need to go through to get to the latest from my current version. This table suggests I need K_0256 before K_0260 (and not K_0257 as it suggests thats for the High version)
Sorry for all the questions but getting a bit confused and dont want to brick my MMI :-( if I can avoid it !!
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I have a 2011 A6 C6
Here is where i made a mistake I read Audi A6 2011 and then stopped ... assuming that it's C7. ... need a bigger

Ok, so you have Basic navigation and this is the right topic for you.
Go with K0257 and then K0260 although i have never did it that way but i know that it is working.

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Thanks Congo
Will try it tomorrow (as I'm not in work) and hopefully have it all done within a few hours :-)
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Will try it tomorrow (as I'm not in work) and hopefully have it all done within a few hours :-)
Just wanted to say thanks again. Updated Firmware (just K0257 then K0260) and then maps and activation.

Cleared the errors as described using VCDS and Green Menu.

Took a while but was straightforward enough and now all seems to be working as it should be !!

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Hello there,

Just wanted to say thanks.

I updated the Firmware from K0257 to K0260 sometime earlier and put the hidden menu back with VCDS.

Today I did the West Europe map and the activation.

I cleared the errors as described using VCDS with the calculator and the Green Menu was still there.

The West Europe map is working but when I put the East Europe map in de card slot I can update again? Clicking on update it says it is already updated.

What do I have to do now for the East Europe map? Already found out! Just install it when you are in Eastern Europe.

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Hi,

I had a quick question-am savvy generally but new to this so here goes: is VCDS essential to perform the upgrades and clear errors? Are errors always expected as there is no connection to Audi SVM?

Basically, can I do the upgrades (firmware and map) and perhaps not expect errors? Also, if I do get errors, does anyone know if something simpler (+ cheaper) such as BW SuperScan VS450 VAG CAN OBDII Scantool Car Code Reader could also clear the errors? I'm just interested in upgrading my maps, not in tinkering with other settings down the line.

Hope this is clear, and hope someone can advise. Cheers
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Hi,

I had a quick question-am savvy generally but new to this so here goes: is VCDS essential to perform the upgrades and clear errors? Are errors always expected as there is no connection to Audi SVM?

Basically, can I do the upgrades (firmware and map) and perhaps not expect errors? Also, if I do get errors, does anyone know if something simpler (+ cheaper) such as BW SuperScan VS450 VAG CAN OBDII Scantool Car Code Reader could also clear the errors? I'm just interested in upgrading my maps, not in tinkering with other settings down the line.

Hope this is clear, and hope someone can advise. Cheers
I have the same question, as I'm about to proceed with upgrade and want to avoid any unpleasantness. Just in case I have purchase a really cheap OBD connector ( OBDeleven in Google ), which looks promising as advertised, just I don't know if it will be able to do same functions as VCDS. Does anyone have experience on something similar? And another question, how long does it takes to do 1 firmware upgrade and how long does it takes for maps? Thanks!!!

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