Hi Adrian,

Are you able to advise if these will work for 3G Plus MMI?

Also, would you be able to advise the firmware versions that are linked so that we know whether we need to update those or not. Eg, my firmware were updated in Dec 2015, and could be the latest already.

I haven't read the attachment yet, so apologies if the answers to above are already addressed in it.

And thanks for sharing.

 

Map will work on 3GP, but the activator is paid for 2016.
The free version is only for 2015 (carson)

Map will fit on 32GB SD Hama formatted in FAT32

:thumbsup: Adrian E :wink2:

 

I'm pretty sure these are 3G only. The map downloads are optimised for to fit on 32GB SD cards and usually have some directories relating to 3G+ files removed. Quite often its some of the LIT3GP directories. Also the activator for 2016 maps for 3G+ is not widely available.

 

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I shall watch this space!


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I've updated the OP to include the firmware levels included - this will be updated as mentioned, once the map file is done.

This thread will only cover 3G - 3GP I have no knowledge of at all, since I don't have it. I'm happy if there's discussion of options and if anyone has access to the firmware, instructions for updating, and details of reasonably priced/free activation for 2016 versions for 3GP then crack on, either in this thread or start a new one and I'll sticky it

Similarly 3G Basic/BNav let's keep separate as it gets confusing!

 

Ok found the thread for the 2016 maps:smile2:

still have a couple of questions which I hope someone can help me (a newbie) with, they are as follows:

I assume that this will work for my AudiA5 2010 2.0 TDI

Software version: HNav_EU_K0206_3_D1

Nav.database version: 8R0060884R ECE 5.11.7

to be on the safe side I think I'm going to download the Firmware files again and then the 2016 maps once the link is available :wink2:

So my final question is in respect to unzipped the files. Do I just drop each of the folders onto the SD card (ie Audi MMI 3G HDD 2015.part01) or do I need to copy the files over at the lower folder level (ie 8R0060884CH and Activation_3GHi_2015_6.20.4)?

I would like to personally thanks both Adrian and Congo for all the effort put into this as from what I can tell its save a lot of people some serious dosh

Cheers
Matt

 

@Matthew Borrett
You have to put on the SD the files that are in the archive.
Usually they are 2 to 5 folders with names [1],[2],[3],[MU9307],[MU9308] and one file "metainfo2.txt". For the activator is the same but there is only one folder called FSC and one file "metainfo2.txt".
Use general purpose SD cards up to class 10, do not use Mac to white the cards. It might work for the software upgrade but it wont work for the map.
If your map version is older that 2015 reported as 8R0051884CH (6.20.4 2015) you will need to delete the NAV partition first. (Found this on the internet https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LPgx/3yppZ6MFE could help)
Keep in mind that the process will take some time. Around 1 hour for one software update.
Here is the duration's of the operations for the MAP install. Total time for the MAP ~ 3 hours, can be 2.5h if you are upgateing from 2015-2016
GDB - 18min [2gb]
GDB2 - 9min [970mb]
LABEL - 0min [2kb]
LIT - 18min [2gb]
LIT2 - 18min [2gb]
LIT3 - 5min [585mb]
SDS - 2min [210mb]
TMC - 0min [6mb]
XAC - 18min [2gb]
XAC2 - 12min [1.26gb]
CTY - 18min [2gb]
CTY2 - 18min [2gb]
CTY3 - 2min [180m]
PIT - 0min [7mb]
TER - 18min [2gb]
TER2 - 2min [204mb]
PKG - 0min
ECE - 0min

 

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LPgx/3yppZ6MFE

Blimey, that guide I wrote turns up all over the place! Or bits of it anyway lol

That's within the pdf in post #1

 

@congo

Thanks for the information Ok so the first hurdle I need to overcome is to write the files to SD on a PC, as I only have MAC's (iMac, Macbook Air) Do you know if I will get the same problem if I write them via Boot camp?

Cheers
Matt

 

there is software that gets rid off the typical OS X files.
I use Eject for Windows.

Eject for Windows

 

there is software that gets rid off the typical OS X files.

I use Eject for Windows.



Eject for Windows

@fred44nl thanks I'll give this a try [emoji51]


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Adrian, do you have any idea when the 2016 maps will be live? I'm currently mapless as deleted my old partition ready to install the 2015 pack, but am now holding off installing them as I might as well go straight to 2016.

If there is going to be a long delay I'll go ahead and install the 2015 pack and update again later...

 

I'm currently mapless as deleted my old partition

in Adrian's excellent pdf, it says to delete the old maps, before installing new ones.
mine have been updated now 3 times, and the old maps have never been deleted separately, as suggested by Adrian's pdf.

I would say that the manual deletion of old maps is only really necessary, when the installation fails, for some reason.

in the file MMI3G - metainfo2.txt it says for every folder: DeleteDestinationDirBeforeCopy = "true", which explains it for me

 

The reason for recommending deleting the partition is that many pre-2010 vehicles left the factory with any inadequately sized nav partition, so after updating the firmware it resets the partition size to make sure you don't get the failed install message. It shouldn't be necessary to do it after the firmware has been updated to the current level, so maybe it's something I need to revisit in the guide.

I think I caveat it a bit in the guide, but I did delete as a belt and braces approach and didn't suffer any problems. Also figured it might get around the need on earlier cars to go into the green menu and change all the values by 1 to get around the 'invalid dataset' message, although not tried it on an older car to see if that actually works! Original 2009 firmware versions would be ideal guinea pigs.

2 of 8 parts have uploaded so far (they're 2.5GB each) but I left it running this morning and either it's taking ages or the upload has stopped and I won't know till I get home.....it shouldn't take 'that' long to upload, given the hassle of doing the install. I'd wait a day or two rather than running the update twice in quick succession

 

3 of 8 parts now up - it's uploading at about 380KB/s......

Will leave PC on until it's done

 

I'm all updated to the 2016 maps and latest firmware. I came from a very old version indeed, but everything went exactly as described in Adrian's write up.

Firstly I feel I have to say a huge thanks to Adrian. The guide he has created is very well written, very detailed - yet easy to understand. Without this guide it would be impossible to have completed this upgrade without Audi's assistance. I used the firmware upgrades from Adrian's link and can vouch they work 100%. Thanks again Adrian – good work :2thumbsup:

Secondly I'd like to thank Congo. While waiting for the 2016 maps to be uploaded I was given an alternate link by Congo. These maps downloaded very quickly and worked 100% - thanks very much!

On my car the 2016 maps took around 2 hours 20 minutes to install using a 32GB SanDisk Extreme Class 10 90Mbps memory card. I ran the update off the battery, but only because I know it's 100%. As has been stated previously (and as Leeful found out!) it isn't guaranteed the battery will last that long!

Thanks again for all your help :thumbsup:

 

as you can see from the pics, I am also completely up-to-date
been in the car for just over 2 1/2 hours, with the engine running, as my battery-indicator dropped one block, only from updating from Hnav_EU_K0257_5_D1 to Hnav_EU_K0257_6_D1
after updating the maps, I now have Hnav_EU_K0257_6_D2

as you can see from the screen shot of my laptop, I deleted all LIT3GP-files. which brings the total space on the SD-card just under 25 GB.

all in all, quite an experience, especially with the fantastic pdf from Adrian.

 

According my app the files have finished uploading - need to organise them and will update with a link

still on my way home from work at the moment :/

 

Link now added to OP :grin2:

 

Finally I'm all updated, it took around 4-4.5hrs

I went from:

Software version: HNav_EU_K0206_3_D1

Nav.database version: 8R0060884R ECE 5.11.7

To:

Software version: HNav_EU_K0257_6_D2

Nav.database version: 8R0060884DF ECE 6.22.4

I enabled hidden green menu with an app called Carista via a wifi OBD2 connector, that allowed me to delete the partition before starting the map update.

All that is left to do now is clear the fault codes down with VCDS as described in Adrian's PDF, just awaiting my USB cable to arrive so I can use my copy running via fusion ware on my MacBook Air.

I would like to personally thank the following:
@Adrian E for providing the firmware, map updates and activator together with a comprehensive step by step PDF.
@fred44nl for your help with getting the file structures correct.
@Richard Groves for pointing me in the direction of "The Unarchiver" app on Mac, this worked a treat [emoji3]


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Glad you got updated @Matthew Borrett. Got to take myself the next step up to 257_6_D2 and the 2016 maps when I get another spare 4 hours....

How do you find the Carista + wifi OBD2? I presume it is this from Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00YVHGTBM/?tag=carista-21

From you saying you are getting a VCDS to clear the codes I'm guessing it can't do that, so what does it do? I'd prefer to be able to use my phone/iPad to scan and tinker without having to run a virtual windows machine on my Mac laptop and drag that out to the car.

 

Richard - Carista can read and clear fault codes, enable the hidden menu and enable a selection of programmable features (eg beep tone on lock/unlock etc.). It does not allow access to change the raw coding like VCDS.


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Did the update last year,i've hit some bumps then, but not like this one
followed the same steps like the first time

 

Have you got the folder structure right on the SD card, or have you used a Mac to copy the files over?

Can't think of any other potential reasons it can't read the metainfo file from the top level of the card....

 

And you are using SD card and not dvd right. I have tried with dvd's for the firmware upgrade and can confirm that it is not working.


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Last year i did the MMI Firmware updates from dvd's :-D and did work, now didn't want to function,so i put the files on SD and worked. now i must update the maps

 

CD's work. Original DVD's and clones work too, but if you just write the files from the folder on DVD it is not working. At least I wasn't able to make it work and have tried more than 10 blank media's +R -R and different manufacturers


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So my friends.....
did the MMI Firmware update= OK
Maps= OK
Activation = OK

but i didn'k quite see any diference, by diference i mean the new roads from last year,they don't apear after the new update

 

but i didn'k quite see any diference, by diference i mean the new roads from last year,they don't apear after the new update

that's my impression too.

 

Hello,
I don`t know where to write this, but i`m gonna be really thankful if you guys can help me.
I have an Audi Q5 from 2011 with MMI 3G basic (only SD card and DVD) with framework: BNav_EU_P0206_D1; Nav database 5.13.8.
I read older posts from 2015 but i don`t know exactly what updates I should have to do, to have the newest firmware and the latest Navi (2016).
:nerd:

 

Hello,

I'm actually at firmware version 206 (HNav_EU_K0206_3_D1).

Before updating my Navi-DB, I have to update to version 257.

Does this mean that I first have to update my firmware twice (first to version 253, and afterwards to version 257) or can I update directly from version 206 to 257 at once?

Thanks for clearing this out for me and many thanks for this interesting topic and guideline!

Regards,
Vicef

 

Does this mean that I first have to update my firmware twice (first to version 253, and afterwards to version 257) or can I update directly from version 206 to 257 at once?

one step at a time.
don't skip any of them.

 

Hi All,

Just bought an A5 coupe, 2 days ago and it is missing alot of roads!! Also, the coverart does not display when playing from the jukebox. I have made sure that the covertart is encoded to the mp3 too, this i do understand!!

The unit is a 3G High i think, not sure of the difference between the High and the Plus. It does have the joypad on the main selector.
I have the following version in my car.
Software version: HNav_EU_P0072_D1, Nav. database version: 8R0060884N ECE 5.12.5

I have downloaded the B8 Firmware, there are 4 folders in there, do I have to apply each one at a time or can i just up load the latest?

Also, i read that i need a cable, where do i get one from and which one is suitable, please.

TIA
Regards,
Paul.

 

I have downloaded the B8 Firmware, there are 4 folders in there, do I have to apply each one at a time or can i just up load the latest?

you must do all 4 of them.
one at the time.
start with the lowest one.
don't skip one.

it is all in the pdf.
that explains it all.

please read it :nerd:

 

Can anyone in Oxford or nearby update my maps for me? I've got a 2013 Audi A5 Coupe S Line

happily pay to have this done, I rang up Audi and they want £280!!!!!!! That's just INSANE